My opinion for this is:

People Who Don't Punish Their Children, are really bad parents. (as topic said)
Yea this is really true.. Parents who don't give some punish are bad because that child who make something really bad and he wouldn't be punished, then that child haven't got some parents help and he wouldn't be good boy.
Sometimes not but most of these not punished children are really bad and still saying "fu*k etc"
If I will be one time father my child will be punished because it will need it for good growing. And I hate parents who just saying bad words when they are with children. Then children are bad motivated and they are using that words too.
Then parents please punish your children.. They need it

This post has been edited by Soviet: Sep 2 2007, 06:09 PM

Yes soviet. This is true, because corparal punishment is like tectera and i said, primitave enough for a young child to understand.

But nowdays in schools they preach, "If your mommy or daddy EVER hits you, come straight to school and let us know." people are sooooo sooooooo libberal these days RAWR!

Yeah, even though I am a bit envious of the children who never get in trouble, and can do whatever they want I do believe punishment needs t o be a factor in parenting. When you don't teach of punishment, and children start believing life is a game it sets up a negative example of the real world. If you go out on the streets and disobey an officer your going to get into some serious trouble, Laws aren't games, and even though this is a far bent example, it demonstrates a point.

Mermaid711,

You are right on target with what I meant, and you said it well.

I don't mean a parent can't be a friend to their children. My parents are among my best of friends. I just cringe when I see a child walk all over their parent(s) and nothing is done. I think people are afraid that they will lose the love of their child if they discipline them, but what they don't realize is that they may lose the love, and definately the respect, if they don't! It's biblical to discipline . . . just read these verses in the New International Version of the bible:



The only other reason I can think of that a parent may not discipline their child is laziness, and I see that all too often: The parent is watching TV and the child does something naughty, but the parent does nothing because they are too lazy to get up and discipline the child, God forbid they should miss any part of their show! It has become a "me" generation, where people are focused on only themselves, but that is another rant.

This post has been edited by Sean Foster: Sep 10 2007, 07:40 PM

I agree at some stuff that has been said and other stuff I dont agree on.

There are lots of parents that do not punish or disicplin their children but they are still good parents and so are the children. They are good kids.
I have seen many of them who do not grow up to just be some spoiled kid who trys to run over his/her parents.
There are aloso just as many who do run over the parents and the parents are bad.
Then ther eis the few exepmtions here and there.
For example.
In a youth program that I worked in there waas a kid who's parents really were bad parents. never at home and once home really didnt care for much other than themselves and getting drunk and stuff.
The kid was pretty much left to do as he please he did do lots of things he should nt be doing but at the same time he had no one to tell him not too.
His parents were either home drunk or out drinking.
But thisprogram allowed me to go and like counsel and wok with the kid. and believe it r not it worked. I didnt get on to himor try to be harsh, i just tried telling him the reprocussions of ones actions.
I even tried talking to the kids parents and that was like talking to a wall. It was very tough.
Dad even try to fight me at one point I was like dude Chill your gonna get knocked out, especially with yu being drunk in all.
I do have to say the parents were nasty and funny at the same time.
Lets just say I walk into the house one day around 6 pm evening time. Im ther to pick up the kid were gonna do some fun stuff.. Also the jid was about 11 or 12 yrs old sorry id dint state that earlier.
back to the story, I go there to pick him up and his folks in the bed room next door are going at it.
By that I mean it was something you do behind close doors and try to keep your voice down.
Yes they were taking care of business, and the mom was getting all loud. Funny stuff but the bad part was,
once done she walked out into the living bare with nothing on as if it was ok .
I understand you have your home but that is not ok. What messages does that give the child.

I don't think so. I have a 7 years old boy, and I never give him any "spankings", but my son have good manners, and obey the rule when he is in public.

I think "spankings" maybe a simple way to get kids quiet and be good but not the best way.

If parents have good behavior the kids will also have. As a saying goes, parents is the best teacher for their children.

I think "spankings" will let kids be forcible, when he want to find the way of resolve a problem, he will use forces simply as their parents do, is that a good thing?

If you jump straight to spankings, sure, they will learn to be forceful; however, if you set solid rules and they willingly break them repeatedly, you must elevate the punishment and eventually, that may mean spanking them. Also, I only spank if they break a rule which endangers themselves or others. Children need to realistically learn consequences for their actions. When they do good, reward them. When they save someone from a very dangerous situation, reward them in a big way! If they do bad, punish them. If they do something very dangerous, punish them in a big way! The punishment needs to fit the transgression. It is better to teach the child the consequences in a controlled environment now (spanking them) rather than letting them learn in an uncontrolled environment later (like possibly losing their life).

In a similar vein, I see many people I grew up with who have absolutely no clue as to how life really works because they were not taught realistically as they were raised. When they want something, they get it because mom and dad always got it for them as kids. Eventually, they find that they are up to their eyeballs in debt (credit cards).

faund, You are correct when you said that parents are the best teachers for their children. So why would you not want them to learn the realistic consequences for their actions.

I think reward and encourage is very important when kids did well. In fact in my country it is well accepted method to teach child, kids get a lot of encourage and reward from their parents and teachers. I though it was something we learn from western world.

In traditional way of China, the parents and teachers do punish much more than reward, kids can hardly get a smile of satisfaction from their parents and teachers, but this situation is totally changed today.

Teaching kids without spankings does not means that we let kids do everything they want to. There are much way to help kids. For an instance, When they act the giddy goat to fight against parents and teachers to win what they want, we always just do nothing, after several times the kids will notice that's useless and not do that again. Doing nothing maybe is the punishment.

This post has been edited by faund: Sep 15 2007, 01:47 PM