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sylenzednuke
post Jun 12 2007, 04:02 AM
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QUOTE(Tetraca @ Jun 12 2007, 03:54 AM) *
http://www.wikia.com/
One of the Wikia wikis I remember seeing is one dedicated completely to creating profiles of Wiki users. I don't know what it's called or it's URL. I know you'll be able to find it, though. I personally find the idea sort of dumb because all users on wikis get userpages, and in Wikipedia and Uncyclopedia you can stick pretty much whatever you would like in your userpage, though there are some limits, and those limits pretty much equate to what MySpace or any other Social Networking site would probably think is the limit in their TOS.

Edit: http://social.wikia.com/wiki/WikiSocial:Welcome <- There's the exact site.

I guess we'll have to drop the idea of a Wiki then. biggrin.gif

But we are looking over the features ourselves so I don't think a Wiki would be of any use whatsoever. Maybe it was only to make the site popular? I mean who wouldn't like to experience another Wiki?

I mean friends, uploads, custom pages editable by SIMPLE EDITOR or CSS ... and even some more when we develop this idea even more. So we don't really need Wiki to do all this, infact the Wiki system isn't that easy to grab as HTML or CSS or PHP is, I find it pretty confusing myself! And this definitely won't be a profile where we type what we are and what are our hobbies, but like those celebrities have Wiki's [highschool year, some incident that changed their life and then how they went on to something different and stuff relevant to that], this is I think what our members should be motivated to write, otherwise it's not even a autobiography, but a simple self-praising MySpace-like profile! Now we don't want to be just another social networking site, do we? We already have Facebook, orkut, MySpace, hi5 and so many more which keep on coming in and in over and over again! And Wikia to me looks like just another social networking site and the Wiki-thing makes it look more not-good-for-the-eyes. tongue.gif Same with Mindsay.com, just too many features and a bloated layout!

I guess our site will have a difference ... what difference is yet to be thought upon. laugh.gif
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post Jun 12 2007, 04:29 AM
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QUOTE(sylenzednuke @ Jun 12 2007, 04:02 AM) *
I guess we'll have to drop the idea of a Wiki then. biggrin.gif

But we are looking over the features ourselves so I don't think a Wiki would be of any use whatsoever. Maybe it was only to make the site popular? I mean who wouldn't like to experience another Wiki?

I mean friends

Easily editable into a list on your page.

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uploads
http://social.wikia.com/Special:Upload

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custom pages editable by SIMPLE EDITOR or CSS

Wikimarkup will work pretty well, and I don't think users really deserve CSS on a social networking site. If you've ever looked at any MySpace, you'll see how much it's abused - to the point where the profile is terribly ugly, unreadable, and choking CPU times.

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infact the Wiki system isn't that easy to grab as HTML or CSS or PHP is
So:
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"''Doctor''? No other title? A ''scholar''? And he rates above the civil authority?"

"Why, certainly," replied Hardin, amiably. "We're all scholars more or less. After all, we're not so much a world as a scientific foundation — under the direct control of the Emperor."

is much harder to type than:
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&quot;<i>Doctor</i>? No other title? A <i>scholar</i>? And he rates above the civil authority?&quot;
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&quot;Why, certainly,&quot; replied Hardin, amiably. &quot;We're all scholars more or less. After all, we're not so much a world as a scientific foundation — under the direct control of the Emperor.&quot;
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I certainly like using Wikimarkup whenever I can over HTML! Don't even try to give your users the ability to customize with PHP! That can be abused rather easily to deface and shut down your website. If you don't like wikimarkup you can use HTML and CSS within the "style" attribute on your page.

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And Wikia to me looks like just another social networking site and the Wiki-thing makes it look more not-good-for-the-eyes. tongue.gif Same with Mindsay.com, just too many features and a bloated layout!

It's actually not a social networking site, or rather that's not it's intent initially. It's just a host for a bunch of wikis with a login system integrated for every wiki so that everyone can contribute. The goal is to share knowlege rather than petty vanity like a social networking site on most of the pages(with the exception of that one wiki and the User page on each wiki).

What it seems to me like you want is a loose community based website based on Drupal, which will have the features you want with the restrictions you need.
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post Jun 12 2007, 04:46 AM
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I like the idea but I would be afraid to put all of that stuff in a database :\... Not that I'm affraid of stalkers or anything it's just like jesus christ would I get a ton of personalized spam in my inbox. I'd prefer not.
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post Jun 13 2007, 01:27 AM
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QUOTE(sylenzednuke @ Jun 11 2007, 02:01 PM) *
And I didn't quite understand the BBCode thing, could you please ellaborate? Why would we want to limit certain data? Are you speaking of making certain parts of the page available for public/friends network editing?


It would only allow friends/family view certain parts of the page, but that might mess up the idea, as people may be adding content already added, that they just can't view lol. Forget the idea tongue.gif
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post Jun 13 2007, 03:53 AM
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QUOTE(Tetraca @ Jun 12 2007, 09:59 AM) *
Wikimarkup will work pretty well, and I don't think users really deserve CSS on a social networking site. If you've ever looked at any MySpace, you'll see how much it's abused - to the point where the profile is terribly ugly, unreadable, and choking CPU times.

It's actually not a social networking site, or rather that's not it's intent initially. It's just a host for a bunch of wikis with a login system integrated for every wiki so that everyone can contribute. The goal is to share knowlege rather than petty vanity like a social networking site on most of the pages(with the exception of that one wiki and the User page on each wiki).

What it seems to me like you want is a loose community based website based on Drupal, which will have the features you want with the restrictions you need.

As per those ugly layouts, we were thinking of having a blank web-page, or a templates system that can be edited quite a bit with CSS and HTML. Like it can be on hi5! And the thing of letting them do stuff with PHP was never the topic at all. No one wanted the users to have PHP on their pages, they might as well get themselves a web-site if that's the case. And even if we give them access to just HTML, some people are capable enough to make their profiles look ugly with that too!

But here, look at it as a BIG essay, and not a profile where people will have glitter-graphics with text "I am Cool!" or whatever ... it won't even be a blog where you put your everyday happenings, just basic things about your life, how you've gone through it, the most memorable times and stuff like that. While thinking of this, remove the entire "social networking" thing from the topic and add only one word "autobiography", maybe the image will be clearer then. The only thing which will make it quite much of a social networking site will be the ability to make friends over the site and then maybe let them edit certain parts of the autobiography or their page. And the image and video hot-linking are just to link memorable videos and certain pics to aid the autobiography. I personally don't want it to become another MySpace.

And as I see it, you definitely aren't looking at it as I am. tongue.gif I am waiting for BooZker's call about everything and the voting. It's his idea so it's upto him what he wants to make this site into. I have sadly never seen good-looking Wiki pages except for Unclyclopedia, Wikipedia and some other Wikis related to web-based things like forum softwares.

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I like the idea but I would be afraid to put all of that stuff in a database :\... Not that I'm affraid of stalkers or anything it's just like jesus christ would I get a ton of personalized spam in my inbox. I'd prefer not.


You really don't need to put all info onto that page, it's not like your blog where you mention stuff about everyday life. Only the basic outline and no one's asking you to display your e-mail address there but it isn't even that hard to grab someone's nowadays. I for one wouldn't really mind using this service.
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post Jun 13 2007, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE(BooZker @ Jun 10 2007, 06:44 PM) *
It's has been awhile since I last posted an idea and winning the Trap 17 Mad Scientist award I feel I must post! Anyways here is an idea and I'll post the good and the bad about it.

I'm not sure what it would be called and wiki is used WAY to much, but for now we will call it WikiBio. WikiBio is a site to post your bio and update it. I am not talking about a quick bio like on Friendster and Myspace. A full blown out bio. You write about youself all the way everything you know even your social security number, ok the social part was a joke, but seriously, it's just a place to post a bio on yourself. It's a wiki site for the reason that your friends can add things about you. Past experiences you might have forgot about. Only friends can do this like comments almost in myspace. The layout wouldn't look as nasty as myspace does and sort of like wikipedia, but I want people to go there and know its WikiBio not Wikipedia. Like i said before, i dont want Wiki in the name!

So what are benefits of this site? Why would you put personal info down? Think about the future and history. We all wont become famous and we all wont do something that will make the news That's why there would be WikiBio. If your detailed enough you could have a nice bio page and pictures. Friends post things about you so you never forget them. Now think, if it lasted, 100 yeas from now. What was great grandpa/grandma like? Or how about a simple historian looking up statisics like, how many people in Washington state were Christian etc. The search you could look up "Fireman in washington" and maybe find a co-worker you had and learn about them later on. Maybe a friend who moved away and found them on there and see how they are doing. There would be a messaging section, but that's not what it's for. You simply read. I know personaly I would find it interesting to look at people bios and read about them in depth. No matter how small we all have interesting lives in some way. Obviously you wouldnt put anything incriminating down and I bet no politicians would put stuff down.

So what do you guys think about this? What name? What would it look like? Would anyone want to help me make it? Would you ever use it?
That would be one of the best sites ever! I would definatly use it!

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post Jun 14 2007, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(sylenzednuke @ Jun 12 2007, 08:53 PM) *
And as I see it, you definitely aren't looking at it as I am. tongue.gif I am waiting for BooZker's call about everything and the voting. It's his idea so it's upto him what he wants to make this site into. I have sadly never seen good-looking Wiki pages except for Unclyclopedia, Wikipedia and some other Wikis related to web-based things like forum softwares.
You really don't need to put all info onto that page, it's not like your blog where you mention stuff about everyday life. Only the basic outline and no one's asking you to display your e-mail address there but it isn't even that hard to grab someone's nowadays. I for one wouldn't really mind using this service.


Hmm I guess you've got a point there. It sounds pretty kewl, and if it gets made I'd love to try it out, and if you need any more php programmers count me in!
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post Jun 15 2007, 06:22 AM
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