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> New York Times Says Vista Is A Copy Of Mac Os X, This is a short video about how it's NOT
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post Jan 26 2007, 08:36 PM
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Even if Microsoft did copy Mac's idea, Bill Gate is still so rich that the US government will protect every *BLEEP* money he makes. Mac's income is nothing compared to what Microsoft got.

By the way, there's a difference between Vista and Mac OS X.

Vista, all kinds of games can be played. Cool for all gamers
X, you can only play certain games. Totally sux for real gamers.

Microsoft has my loyalty. Go Microsoft, bankrupt Apple Inc.!!!!
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post Jan 27 2007, 03:30 PM
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Microsoft's on the decline...so tell your parents to sell their M$ stock before someone finally sues em...even if Microsoft wins, the value's gonna fall...
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post Jan 27 2007, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE(BooZker @ Dec 19 2006, 06:54 AM) *

Didn't Apple come before out before Windows then Bill Gates tweaked the UI a bit then released it. For a long time Windows made it's own stuff and was original. I believe that if Apple keeps making great inovations that they will end up ahead. The problem is that they are so far behind and they dont really accept to many games. Actually Macs new OS has a thing called spaces which is a rip off of Linux systems, but that is the only thing i saw.


Not at all. First of all, the possibility of multiple desktops is not supported by any version of windows, but Linux certainly isn't the only one with it. Apple just added a feature to make the switching between these desktops a lot easier and ADDED the ability of exchanging windows between the different desktops or spaces, which in essence, just are different virtual terminal's, Linux keeping the name "desktop", Apple using the name "spaces", nothing wrong with that, not?

Then your statement about windows beeing original... Well when you release your first realy graphical versions of your os, it isn't kind of hard to add new features eh? Concidering versions of windows prior to 95 not beeing graphical, at least not user-friendly graphical.
Linux does this a lot better, but Apple is some leaps ahead with user-friendly GUI's, and it is still coming up with new features. (Anyone ever thought about making a UI like Apple's iPhone for portable phones? I believe not.

What about the games... Well it is true there aren't many games written for Apple computers, but that's because the market isn't big enough. For homepc, Apple's are mainly used in the USA. In Europe and Asia, the pc is more commonly spread, whereas Apple is more used in the professional industry (I think it isn't necessary there to play games, is it?), but Apple is getting more and more spread in Europe. In a few years, I guess there will be more games made for Mac.
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post Jan 28 2007, 07:01 AM
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Apple and MS are like two nations who are in competition but rely upon each other for certain things they can't do for themselves. For instance, Apple is the only thing, probably, coming between MS the demise AT&T met when they were forced to split up due to the monopoly they had. The Feds aren't afraid to come after MS as was seen during the Klinton Administration. MS, on the other hand, has on its campus the largest Apple Group of software engineers outside of Apple itself. If Apple were to sue MS, MS would respond by selling off billions of $$$ of Apple's stock and shutting down all Apple-related software research and development. They'd probably buy Adobe and sack all their Apple development people too, which would cause Apple's stock to dive like a rock in the ocean. It would cause more damage for something like this to take place and this way, people know Apple's innovations lead the industry which gives it good press and causes it's stocks to continue to rise and they've got halos over their heads and can do nothing wrong in the eyes of the authorities. I own both platforms including a new Mac laptop (MBP 2.33 MHz C2D 17" 2GB/160GB) and I couldn't be happier since I'm not a big game player - if I were I'd buy a Mac work station loaded and a copy of Windoz for the gaming side of things. I am really not fond of MS except for their Apple-Office products.
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post Jan 28 2007, 08:44 AM
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Well this is how i see no matter what happens bill gates will never go out business. How many of you all out there has Microsoft office on your computer i guess a majority of users. Another thing is apple computers already have a bad reputation from there past computers most potential buyers always look at the past history on things. Back then Apple was labeled bad. In the time of windows 95 no one jumped to apple they stayed with Microsoft do you all no the reason why? My guess is because windows was the best to use back then. Also PC vs Mac and all that other stuff it is not about the games if you want to make your pc better all you have to do is buy a new part for it no big deal. You can have an ancient pc and its performance is just like a new computer you cant do that with a mac. So PC will always be the choice of computers buyers.
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post Feb 1 2007, 04:44 AM
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i lawled. that is really quite funny, i hadn't seen anything of vista before that video. mac os has always had a superior gui so its to no surprise that windows with its traditional style of design has leap forth to counter in this area... that being said, i don't see why they have gone and copied so many features from mac os. i mean gadgets and the chess board, common thats really pushing it. but then again, you can see this as a relatively smart move. everything that was 'cool' on mac os is now standard on vista. why get both? in the long run vista well have more compatibility than mac os. its teh same when win xp came out, nobody wanted to change in the beginning because of compatibility issues but as it became mainstream everything adapted to it.

i say mac has to make its move, its a sitting duck right now. they make very little attempts to integrate their os to have global compatibility. everything is windows, mac or linux. if macs were more versatile (i.e. easily upgradeable like pcs), and could run beasty games i'd go with a mac anyday. its just the lack of functionality that comes with them. it seems they're too restricted to design, not everybody is a designer though. ;t
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post Feb 25 2007, 10:44 AM
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i say mac has to make its move, its a sitting duck right now. they make very little attempts to integrate their os to have global compatibility. everything is windows, mac or linux. if macs were more versatile (i.e. easily upgradeable like pcs), and could run beasty games i'd go with a mac anyday. its just the lack of functionality that comes with them. it seems they're too restricted to design, not everybody is a designer though. ;t


To be honest I am using once now and i think the are MORE compatible. Windows can't connect well with Macs. I got it doing it, but it does it super slow also. Macs connect at one hell of a fast speed. They also can connect over LAN to Linux, Windows, and other Macs. You can use any usb device. You can even install Windows on a Mac. The ONLY downfal i find to macs are the lack of support in games. I almost never play games, so i dont care!
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post Feb 25 2007, 09:05 PM
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OMG!! I loved his sarcasm!

grass vs. ceramic chess board, gg!

I must say that the first time I saw the vista aero gui, I immediately thought of mac, even though I hadn't (and still haven't) had much experience with Macs. It seems that a lot of little applets are based on stuff from apple, but the thing I find a little scarier about vista is it's similarity to many of the linux distrobutions. I have mainly used debian based distros, preferably with the Gnome window manager, and I was looking over someone's shoulder the other day, while he was messing with his newly installed vista... and SO much of the file management seems COMPLETELY ripped off nautilus and Gnome. Like how you add "favourites" to the bar at the side. The pane at the left... looks like gdesklets... there was a similar system to gksu for performing options as the "Administrative" user, aka root. The list goes ON AND ON AND ON! I am rather shocked, to say the least...
Aero, now... For SOME, ODD reason, it reminded me of compiz. Yes, I know, the windows tile on a flat surface in compiz (so that you can actually see them), and they have a thing in aero that hides half of the window, but it is the SAME THING!
What I'm worried about is when people see linux, they will say "that's such a rip-off from windows!", JUST LIKE THEY DID WITH MAC, back when M$ became popular. You should check out wikipedia and make a timeline of dates, just to see in what order things came out...

As to applel sueing M$, that's not going to happen. It already has. Just after Windows 3.1 was released, apple sued M$ for the copying of their interface. Apple sued for copyright, and since copyright is for COMPLETE copying (eg if a M$ employee had gone in and cp mac_source win_source'ed ), they were not granted this "patent-like protection, as apple had not filed a patent for the use of a gui, since the xWindows project (in no way related to M$ Winblowz) had been going on several years prior to Apple's first GUI. It's just like saying that xerox park can now come and sue M$ for using a GUI, just because Xerox Park was first. (Which they were, btw).

So there is no way that anybody is getting sued, though I do thing that the average user should be entitled to suing M$ for trying to make them think that windows is a neccessary part of their computer. An interesting connection I have seen there is actually to cigarettes. Who needs it? Who wants it? And it is also not original. People smoked long before companies made it a big, corporate affair that was more about the money than about producing the product - (the companies of course being M$.)

Well, so long as no-one forces Vista (or indeed any windows) on me, I'm happy. I have a roof, walls and several doors, in addition to windows, without living with the accursed and miserable failure of DMR.
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