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Dec 4 2007, 11:50 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 101 Joined: 13-October 07 Member No.: 51,530 |
Most hosts oversell there resources, knowing you won't use it. Some hosts offer 100gb's of space for the most beginner package. Well we know with 10+ members that's going to require a lot of hard drive space. Trap17 doesn't oversell. If we give you 500megs of space, you have 500megs of space to use. That space is allocated to you, and we actually have that space. It's free webhosting, simply. Free is not always free, but this is as really free ask you can get, all we ask in return is a couple posts a day, there's no real reason you should go negative in the first place. sure it is allocated. space is the least problem for servers, everybody knows that. proc and RAM is the most important component. i'm just saying that what i'm thinking. shame nobody is listening. trap17 doesn't need to push users for posts! the same thing that made this forum great is now killing it. just look at the posts and read them. most of them are spam posts from users who have to write something or they'r gonna lose their hosting acc. i really don't have emotional connection to this forums, but it's funny how admins don't see what are they turning in to. shame, real shame they don't care about it... |
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Dec 4 2007, 01:34 PM
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Neurotical Squirrel ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 590 Joined: 4-November 04 From: Novi Sad, Vojvodina Member No.: 2,127 |
Looking at the forums I read most, posts are of substantial quality, and on a much higher level than most other forums I've been to... So, I don't see they are spam posts... Besides, there is a horde of moderators overseeing and making shure the posts are of required quality...
Saying OpaQue forgot us is very rude... He has not forgot us... He still provides full support for Trap17 members... I have sent him numerous PM's regarding different aspects of my hosting, and he has always responded in the quickest manner, regardless of if I asked a question or if I had a problem... I will remind you of a great saying "There Is No Such Thing As A Free Lunch", or just TINSTAAFL, ask Google about it... Everything costs money... Xisto needs to pay for bandwidth used by us, they don't get it for free, you know... even though they have to servers available, someone needs to maintain them... That costs too... Spare parts, ugrading... And why would he move to vB, when IPB is working perfectly? I expect it would take agreat amount of time to migrate to a new forum engine, rewriting scripts, etc.... Who has that much spare time on their hands? In the end, if you really hate negative credits, why did you agree to TOS? Why do you use Trap17 service? Because there is not a single free web host, that will give you what Trap17 gives you... Hell, there are even paid hostings that don't give what Trap17 gives you... Come to think of it, your posts do appear as your attempt to raise your credit count... I've been using this service for years, and will continue to do so, until I get the means to switch to paid hosting, again, with Xisto... And I won't forget the forums, and will keep posting even when I switch to paid hosting... Because this is a great community, and we have OpaQue to thank for thinking of this great way to help us... |
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Dec 4 2007, 02:13 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 101 Joined: 13-October 07 Member No.: 51,530 |
Looking at the forums I read most, posts are of substantial quality, and on a much higher level than most other forums I've been to... So, I don't see they are spam posts... Besides, there is a horde of moderators overseeing and making shure the posts are of required quality... it's just not the same that you have to write the post! i mean, i HAVE to write the post each day even if i don't have anything to say. mods can delete posts that are pure spam, but most post that are like "oh cool mate, i'm sure gona use this" or similar are just the same as any other spam. i'm sure that people really mean that, but then you have like 100 posts a day that are like that. it's annoying to see all those answers, and not a single constructive and meaningful conversation. Saying OpaQue forgot us is very rude... He has not forgot us... He still provides full support for Trap17 members... I have sent him numerous PM's regarding different aspects of my hosting, and he has always responded in the quickest manner, regardless of if I asked a question or if I had a problem... i didn't mean he forgot to support members. i meant that he forgot his original idea. ok, i understand that he's a busy man who works a lot. my posts are not to insult but to remind him on his idea. you saw what he wrote. he said that he wants to provide good hosting. he manages that with trap. but this is not perfect. and now it can be better. people will appreciate it i can guarantee that, and he has power to do that - why don't do it! i got few mails from trap that say we made this, we made that! even the one where they move to new, bigger location! woaha, that's great, that's awesome. so why don't ease up a bit on people here, and give even more for lot less. I will remind you of a great saying "There Is No Such Thing As A Free Lunch", or just TINSTAAFL, ask Google about it... Everything costs money... Xisto needs to pay for bandwidth used by us, they don't get it for free, you know... even though they have to servers available, someone needs to maintain them... That costs too... Spare parts, ugrading... posts are not money! trap17 doesn't earn any money from our posts. heck, even opaque himself removed adsense and banners from forums, and told that they are not needed for the forums... so it's free. but, it can be even more - psychically free - if you just think about it for a while. And why would he move to vB, when IPB is working perfectly? I expect it would take agreat amount of time to migrate to a new forum engine, rewriting scripts, etc.... Who has that much spare time on their hands? vB is masivly faster then IPB. i can feel the difference couse i'm member of some even larger forums, with 3k + members online that are using vB, and when i browse through it's a lot faster than ipb. i guess it's not a hosting problem since xisto is hosting company, so it can be only forums problem In the end, if you really hate negative credits, why did you agree to TOS? Why do you use Trap17 service? Because there is not a single free web host, that will give you what Trap17 gives you... Hell, there are even paid hostings that don't give what Trap17 gives you... Come to think of it, your posts do appear as your attempt to raise your credit count... right! now it's my fault that i have an opinion and i'm talking about it. when i'm saying that this can be better, and writing post about it i'm raising credits. but if i just talk how wonderful it is, and how happy i'm about it then it's not?! I've been using this service for years, and will continue to do so, until I get the means to switch to paid hosting, again, with Xisto... And I won't forget the forums, and will keep posting even when I switch to paid hosting... Because this is a great community, and we have OpaQue to thank for thinking of this great way to help us... it's great. but it can be even greater. just think about it for a while... |
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Dec 4 2007, 03:19 PM
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#14
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Neurotical Squirrel ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 590 Joined: 4-November 04 From: Novi Sad, Vojvodina Member No.: 2,127 |
It's very simple... OpaQue wants to have a great community, and he has that - he has us... If he woud stop asking for us to post, than this community would be dead... There would be maybe 50 of us who would still post...
And sure, OpaQue and Xisto don't have direct income from the forums, but the service he provides is the advertisment for itself... Huge community has a much better ranking in the search engines, much more hits... People come here, see what's offered for free, they see ComputingHost link, etc... They go there, and sign up... I am sure, that had you came up with the same idea OpaQue did, you would have had the same credit system that is now in efect... And noone is stopping you to start your own community and webhosting, right? I'm not saying anything is your fault... You agreed with the Terms Of Service, and those are the terms of service... I understand you are just expressing your oppinion, and that's fine by me... All I'm saying is that I completely understand why OpaQue has this credit system in effect, and that I stand by him in that matter... People are lazy when it comes to posting good and quality posts... I know I am... This is only a means of ensuring people get back here from time to time, and contribute to this community we've made... Also, he makes sure people who have free hosting with Trap17, actually care about that hosting, and care about their site... Otherwise, Trap's servers would be full of idle accounts that weren't updated in months... Like one of my first website of Freewebs, or whatever was it's name... Years after I last signed in and modified the files, my site is still there... That's called a waste of space... Keeping credits above 10 is quite easy actually... And with the amount of categories and topics, one can easily find a topic (s)he can write in, or even start their own topic... If there is not an active topic, you can always resurect one of the old topics, on pages 2,3,4... And bring them back to life, and spark another discussion... The only thing required, is a little bit of good will... |
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