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Aug 23 2007, 08:04 AM
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apt-get moo ![]() Group: [MODERATOR] Posts: 1,912 Joined: 28-May 05 From: Hertfordshire, England Member No.: 7,593 ![]() |
As soon as Linux becomes popular hackers will make customized viruses for Linux only. At the moment there are around 100 viruses that can affect Linux, compared to over 100,000 viruses that attack Windows PCs. Yes, as Linux becomes more popular it is likely that more viruses will be written for it. However, there is a large difference between Windows and Linux. On Windows, whatever sort of account you are using you have access to Windows files and settings. On Linux, your standard account has access to your own documents and user settings, and thats about it. If a virus did get onto a Linux system, it could not destroy the heart of the operating system. Regular backups make sure that your files are always safe. Ubuntu is often seen as more secure because you can't log in as root. You can only run one command at a time as root, and that requires you to retype your user password. You can even remove that ability from your everyday account, and just keep another account for performing system changes. And I don't know much about GNU Agreement but if you give out your source code of an operating system to the public, aren't you pretty much asking to be hacked into? Soon Linux would become like Microsoft, releasing a package and fix for every little vulnerabilities.... As far as I'm aware, both the Linux source code and most of the distributions based on it regularly release security patches and updates. Having the source code available makes the operating system more secure, as thousands of people are looking at it and checking for bugs and security vulnerabilities. Security issues have been known to be fixed within minutes of them appearing. Compare this to Windows, where only a select few developers in Redmond have access to the source code. Yes, you can report an issue, but you can't actively do anything to fix it. |
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Aug 24 2007, 04:14 AM
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Member [Level 1] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: 31-May 07 From: Dallas Member No.: 43,930 |
QUOTE having the source code available makes the operating system more secure I STRONGLY disagree with that. The same freedom that lets people modify a program to upgrade can also be used to maliciously and eailsy find holes in the system, and anyone who ignores that problem is making a big mistake. QUOTE thousands of people are looking at it and checking for bugs and security vulnerabilities. While I agree that the more people contribute to secure a OS makes it a lot better than a few private developers doing a 300-man job,thousands more are figuring out a way to get in to the OS, this is one of the main disadvantages if Open source applications. Since their code is open to the public, there will always be someone, somewhere on earth that will do anything to compromise the integrity of the system, developers of Open source application would be forced to play a never ending cat and mouse game with hackers. One finds a hole in the security and plugs it up, while one opens a new hole, you close the door and they open a window. You create a solution while they create problems. Get what I mean? How would you stop that problem? You reply me a real useful and reasonable solution to that predicament and I will format my PC right now and install my Kubuntu. This post has been edited by birudagmawi: Aug 24 2007, 04:16 AM |
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Aug 24 2007, 06:43 AM
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Converting one Penguin at a time. ![]() Group: [MODERATOR] Posts: 1,740 Joined: 22-June 05 From: The place where moving forward means moving backwards. Member No.: 8,528 ![]() |
Since their code is open to the public, there will always be someone, somewhere on earth that will do anything to compromise the integrity of the system, developers of Open source application would be forced to play a never ending cat and mouse game with hackers. One finds a hole in the security and plugs it up, while one opens a new hole, you close the door and they open a window. You create a solution while they create problems. Get what I mean? How would you stop that problem? If i'm not mistaken (and i know i'm not QUOTE As soon as Linux becomes popular hackers will make customized viruses for Linux only. [...]Soon Linux would become like Microsoft, releasing a package and fix for every little vulnerabilities... But, of course, nothing is 100% secure. As it stands, open source and closed source can be equally insecure, but open source has become a community, where there appears to be more programmer's helping each other than destroying each other. You reply me a real useful and reasonable solution to that predicament and I will format my PC right now and install my Kubuntu. You don't have to fully format your PC to use Linux. You can just create a new partition and install it there. Unlike Windows, Linux "allows" other operating systems to be accessible on the same system. Windows overwrites the MBR without any care for other operating systems on the system. And since you mention Kubuntu, you can try out the distro before installing it on your system, being a LiveCD. |
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Aug 24 2007, 10:46 PM
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Member [Level 1] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: 31-May 07 From: Dallas Member No.: 43,930 |
Look its not that I HATE Linux, I love it, heck I use Damn Small Linux almost everyday but its just not practical as a primary Operating System.
QUOTE but open source has become a community, where there appears to be more programmer's helping each other than destroying each other. Simply not true. There are thousands of forums,sites,blogs, and wiki's out there that offer the same level of support, my favorite being the MSFN(Microsoft Software Forum Network) which has no affiliation with Microsoft but still create OPEN Source programs like Revolutions Pack, Unofficial Service Pack for 9x/2000/XP as well as other programs. Just because MS is CLOSED source doesn't mean there isn't the same level, if not better support for the Operating System |
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Aug 24 2007, 11:28 PM
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Super Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 433 Joined: 3-January 07 From: The West Side Member No.: 36,424 |
QUOTE Unlike Windows, Linux "allows" other operating systems to be accessible on the same system. Windows overwrites the MBR without any care for other operating systems on the system. No, linux just installs a program to try and handle multi-os booting. |
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Aug 25 2007, 01:01 AM
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Converting one Penguin at a time. ![]() Group: [MODERATOR] Posts: 1,740 Joined: 22-June 05 From: The place where moving forward means moving backwards. Member No.: 8,528 ![]() |
... but its just not practical as a primary Operating System. I don't understand how it isn't. My Linux OS can do everything i can do in Windows (and more), and some of this stuff Windows doesn't even come with pre-installed. Linux may not be the best for gamers, and i'm not much of a PC gamer, but gaming isn't what makes an operating system practical. Practical would fall into media and internet: music, e-mail, graphics or images, video, IM, documents, etc.—all of this Linux can do. Plus, even some governments in the east are switching to Linux and Dell allows you to choose whether to have Ubuntu or Windows pre-installed into the system. Simply not true. May i ask what's not true about it besides what it can imply? I feel that you've just simply added to what i had to say, which i won't disagree with. No, linux just installs a program to try and handle multi-os booting. I know, but it's the same thing, right? |
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Aug 25 2007, 04:41 AM
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Member [Level 1] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: 31-May 07 From: Dallas Member No.: 43,930 |
Lets just put this to rest. The following are my final thoughts on this topicL
1)While Open source Ubuntu Offers a better community and developer support it still gives away its source code to hackers who can easily reverse engineer it 2)Ubuntu and its cousin Os's are all great operating system for beginners and moderate computer users, otherwise, you will be having a lot of trouble when installing Microsoft Friendly softwares, unless you are willing to compromise for Linux Friendly Open source software. 3)Dell giving put Ubuntu as a Pre-Installed option is great for us, but to them its just a big PR stunt to put them on the headlines, but who cares, Linux is on a Major PC Manufacturer Cool! And I am done.... |
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Aug 29 2007, 07:18 PM
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Member [Level 3] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 98 Joined: 29-August 07 From: india Member No.: 49,026 |
hey i have loads of UBUNTU cds to distribute here in india. open source rulz.. but i hardly use linux becoz i m addicted to windows. but i like mac and ubuntu for virus free.
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