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post Jun 16 2008, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE(Erdemir @ Jun 16 2008, 05:00 PM) *
Firstly let me say what the four holly books are. You have counted only the three.
The holly books are Psalms, Torah, Bible and Qur'an. Psalms is to David, Torah is to Moses, Bible is to Jesus and Qur'an is to Mohammad.

You said about what your bible teachers are saying. Can tell me where the original Bible is? The Christians changed lots of things while translating into their language or while other things. In my opinion, we cannot trust the replaced Bibles, lots of different Bibles (Where is the original Bible?). The same thing is also happened into Psalms and Torah. There is only one holly book left, and it is protecting its original language, Qur'an. In my opinion, we can only trust to Qur'an. Because all Qur'ans in the world are writing the same even all the letters.
And Qur'an is saying Adam is a human who is created from earth by Allah.


The Qu'ran was written about 600 AD, correct?

Is the original copy still intact? And how do you know it was inspired by Allah? How do you know Mohammud didn't invent the whole thing, like you say people changed or invented the Bible? How do you know it wasn't changed as well? What if the copies today aren't exact copies?

...there is no original Bible. It was made up of 66 books all strung together by... ... by... (okay, I forget. I need to do some research.) As well, the Torah is made up of the Pentateuch, which are the five books of Moses, which are the first five books of the Bible.
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post Jun 16 2008, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE(tricky77puzzle @ Jun 17 2008, 01:11 AM) *
The Qu'ran was written about 600 AD, correct?
Yes, exactly in 611-632 in 21 years (if I remembered right).
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Is the original copy still intact?
Yes, the original Qur'an is in the Kaaba in Mecca.
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And how do you know it was inspired by Allah? How do you know Mohammad didn't invent the whole thing, like you say people changed or invented the Bible?
Quran is Allah's word, proof:
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The Holy Qur’an is not a book of science but it is amazingly accurate when it makes scientific claims. The Holy Qur’an was revealed to Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), an illiterate man more than 1,400 years ago.

For example: the Holy Qur’an claims that the sex of a human being is determined by the sperm cells from the male (Holy Qur’an 53:45-46). This was not known until the discovery of genetics in the 20th century. In many cultures it was believed that a baby’s sex was determined by the female’s body.

Also please read this report called: “Does the Qur’an plagiarize ancient Greek Embryology?” by Dr. Omar Abdel Rehman.
Here is the link: www.quranicstudies.com/article76.html
Source: http://truereligiondebate.wordpress.com/20...he-word-of-god/

More Scientist proofs in Qur'an: http://hometown.aol.com/__121b_T0s1oK+Twgm...TcBnGzofPjLVRM=

And Mohammad has never said lie because the people even who has never liked Mohammad called Mohammad as "Al-Amin". What is Al-Amin?
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Due to his upright character he acquired the nickname "Al-Amin" (Arabic: الامين), meaning "faithful, trustworthy".
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad
And Muhammad has never know how to write and read, everyone knows that Mohammad didn't know writing and reading.
By the way in the Bible saying the last prophet will come whose name is Ahmed (if still exists in the Bible), and Ahmed is one of Mohammad's name.

QUOTE(tricky77puzzle @ Jun 17 2008, 01:11 AM) *
How do you know it wasn't changed as well?
Because it has been written directly and copied from its original. And the person who changes even one letter in Qur'an, becames not Muslim, or banned, or I don't know in English but it is like Excommunication in Christianity. No one can dare to change one letter in Quran.
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What if the copies today aren't exact copies?
All the Qur'ans in Arabic are equal. You can check if it is right. Take any Quran and compare all the letters one by one with any other Quran, you will not see any differences.

QUOTE(tricky77puzzle @ Jun 17 2008, 01:11 AM) *
...there is no original Bible. It was made up of 66 books all strung together by... ... by... (okay, I forget. I need to do some research.) As well, the Torah is made up of the Pentateuch, which are the five books of Moses, which are the first five books of the Bible.
No, in the begin each of Bible and Torah was unique like Quran. They were Allah's words too, but people added their own words and also changed.
But as I said, Quran has never been changed. If you can spare a little time, please have look at the sites I specified.
Especially this page can show you some proofs: http://hometown.aol.com/__121b_T0s1oK+Twgm...TcBnGzofPjLVRM=
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