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Dec 7 2006, 03:56 PM
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Proud to be hosted ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 992 Joined: 11-July 04 From: NL Member No.: 75 |
This is a bit of a double sides subject, there are multiple aspects to take caution of when talking about this..
1) Why does someone want to commit suicide, is it because of bad relationships, mental or physical illness or some other reason? Sometimes you can get helped to get over your issues and live a normal life... 2) How does a person commit suicide, this might sound pretty rude, but when someone commits suicide it should be done in such a way that you don't hurt innocent people (dont confuse this with a terrorist flying a airplane in the World Trade Center). Here in the Netherlands mature people from 18 years and older can choose to end their life, but they are not allowed to do it theirselves. 3) Does the person give his family a bad name by commiting suicide? Sometimes if a member of a family commits suicide the entire family will be blackmailed, while the family is probably already hurt because of the family ember commiting suicide there are many other things to take under consideration, whether suicide is allowed or not is a question of "standards and values" (rough translation from dutch) |
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Jan 7 2007, 12:06 AM
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I am against suicide and would try to help anyone who is thinking about it, by giving advice. But, you can't punish someone. I think that's up to God or whoever you believe in to decide because they'll be dead. I hope people will stop killing themselves
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Jan 7 2007, 05:35 PM
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Member [Level 1] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 61 Joined: 4-July 05 Member No.: 8,994 |
i guess i should have been more specific if your caught trying to commit suicide In that case, psychiatric help would be more important. Punishment does not serve as a deterrent to suicide. |
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Jan 7 2007, 06:21 PM
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Super Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 492 Joined: 15-August 06 From: Philippines Member No.: 28,387 |
This is a topic morbidly close to my heart and the replies to it have touched on a heartstring or two.
suicide is selfish and immoral. It is selfish, yes, as I'm sure a person on the brink of self-destruction is aware of. However, I doubt that person will care the least bit about society's morals. Granted there are plenty of people who are less fortunate than I am and It's very hard it imagine their situation, but whatever it is, it's bearable. Pardon my sarcasm but it does seem ambivalent to 1) admit a suicidal person's condition must be unimaginable and 2) generalize that "whatever it is, it's bearable" Let's see, how bearable is it to be rejected by friends and family because of your sexuality? How bearable is doubling over in pain regularly because of an illness that has no cure? How bearable is it to curl up in hunger because you haven't the money to buy food, much less, put a roof over your head? How bearable is it to have been raped, humiliated and now, shunned by the entire community? How bearable is it to live through the stigma of having AIDS you know you got from a careless transfusion when people around you mumble and whisper words like *BLEEP*, slut or, for the more genteel of you, sexually promiscuous? The world is a big scary place and just because some people can't see the horrors it is capable of doesn't mean those horrors do not exist to haunt people elsewhere. Really, it is quite insensitive to say, "whatever it is, it's bearable" It is as inhumane as a doctor saying, "Shush! That's nothing!" to a patient with broken ribs. I have one more idea, instead of destroying your body, sell it to some hospital. Part by part, slowly..... Sorry for such a cruel thinks. It ain't that cruel. I think it is only sensible, from a humanitarian POV. I mean, instead of burning you body to ashes or feeding your body to worms, which in my opinion is so much better in that it nurtures life other than that of another human's, why not just donate it to someone who needs it more than you do? It's true; when you're dead, every other person needs your organs more than you. |
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Jan 7 2007, 06:39 PM
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No because if your allowed to kill yourself at 18 then maybe an 18 will do so while his parents would not want him to do something as horrid as that. THink bout dis.... if you were able to commit suicide then many people who do it and hurt someone else maybe smebodu that they rlated to, so no it should not be legal at all and shoud never be thinked of that!
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Jan 7 2007, 09:39 PM
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Super Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 413 Joined: 4-October 06 From: Psychedelic Realms Member No.: 31,079 |
If a parent lives to see his child take his own life it his a horrible thing.. If a child lives to that his parent takes his own life it is something even worse, for the psyche of that child. For someone who tries to end his life, and fails punishment is not the answer. That can't be a crime! Only crime is the crime of our society that leads someone to that decision.
At the peak of our glorious race, when technology, standards and kulture reach it's highest levels throughout the whole history of human kind certain individuals are driven to that mad act. You, me or anybody can't be the judge of other one's psyche! All of this fast life that drives people to accumulation of richness and wealth, making them feel "I want more, i want more", and even when they get that more it isn't enough. Some people are just left behind. Remember yourself seeing a sad face of person sitting alone in the park, his eyes glazing into emptiness of his surroundings, how did you react? Did you maybe approach that person and asked her the problem, or did you just look the other way! It is easy to judge, and talk about knowing better. But sometimes just smile, one single, small, sencier smile can mean more than whole books, schools and meanings of this whole life together. Remember to smile, and not to judge. Try to feel the pain of your neighbour and embrace it. Try to help and live with it, try to give it a meaning. Suicide is not the answer, life is. |
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Jan 7 2007, 11:55 PM
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Privileged Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 913 Joined: 23-December 05 Member No.: 16,099 |
If the person wants to do it, then that is their choice. But seriously though, they should consider getting help and/or if seen trying to harm themselves by authoritive figures (ie cops), then they should really get the person to a hospital and/or pysche ward rather than a police station.
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Jan 8 2007, 01:29 AM
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Hidden Secrets can't be told threw just words. One must feel what the other feels to truely understand... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,522 Joined: 8-January 06 From: Sacramento California Member No.: 16,756 |
I DO NOT think that suicide should be illegal, i think this because it is their life, their body, their decision, if someone over the age of 21 can make the decision to kill themselves by smoking, then people should not have to worry about it being illegal to kill themselves.
I for one am not for suiaicide, i have talked many of my friends out of it and helped them through it after they wanted to do it so badly. If someone commites suiacide, who will there be to blame if the person who did it is dead? are you going to go to the family and see if they were making the persons life hell to cause them to do what they did and imprison them? I think not. |
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