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Mar 9 2006, 01:03 AM
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Trap Double Mocha Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 2,258 Joined: 5-November 05 From: That one place over there... Member No.: 13,830 myCENT:26.44 |
I would like to try it but if it downloads things you COULD encounter next then it will go through all of the links on a page and try to have it ready for when you go there. That means it is saving all of these cookies or whatever which could slow things down because there could be hundreds of links on a page. I am not sure if that is the problem but that is my guess. My internet goes just fine on it's own I don't think I really need to make it go faster.
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Mar 10 2006, 02:49 AM
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Super Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 205 Joined: 3-September 05 Member No.: 11,447 |
Nice catch there, thanks for that, I will certainly try this and see if it will at least contribute to the speed of my connection. Google is really venturing in as much technology as they can so watch out Bill Gates, theyre really a threat now.
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Mar 10 2006, 11:27 PM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 10-March 06 Member No.: 19,839 |
A bit about that used to be at iMDB:
http://www.imdb.com/irony QUOTE A quick way to slow things down oxymoron n. Web-accelerators Rob Hartill. Internet Movie Database. Apr 1998 Surfing the internet you sometimes may be forgiven for thinking that you've wandered off onto some mud infested cattle trail, things go that slow. As you wander the net you may not see anyone else but you're sharing congested highways with millions of other people from every corner of the world. The key thing to remember here is that you're sharing resources... limitted resources. Sooner or later, when there are enough people using the same resources they will inevitably become saturated. Once saturated, everyone ends up waiting their turn to use the scarce resource and as web surfers we observe this saturation in the form of delays reaching and downloading web pages. The Internet is prone to slowdowns caused by bottlenecks on key network routes. However, for web surfers this is not the only cause of delays. In this age of instant information the slightest delay is sometimes noticeable. We can become impatient with a 30 second download delay from a web server even though it might be saving us a 3 hour trip to the mall or library. That 30s delay may well be caused by the sheer complexity of creating the page requested. Maybe you've asked for a database to be searched or perhaps the server you're talking to is very popular and is overworked. Delays are almost inevitable. Strangely, some argue that delays are for other people, and that if you use their products you can reap the benefit of state of the art technology that's able to side-step delays. We're talking web-accelerators. Since there's some variations in what some vendors consider to be web-accelerators we need to define them for the context of this article. Here we consider web-accelerators to be the web browsers and web-browser plugins which use a technique called prefetching to download web pages before they are needed. If we were to believe the marketing hype of the web-accelerators creators and vendors then we'd be looking at the Net equivalent of the 'science' of alchemy. They'd have us believe that the web is only slow because we're not using it quickly enough. Let's explain. Web-accelerators use prefetching. Basically that means that when you visit a web site and download a page, instead of your browser and network connection sitting there idle, it gets put to some 'good use'. While you read the page you last downloaded, the web-accelerator will look at that page and find all the links it has to other pages. (Often, but not always the web-accelerator will only look for links that point to the same web server.) When it finds a link or collection of links the accelerator starts to download each of them. Each downloaded page is squirreled away onto your harddisk just in case you need it later. Can you see the catch yet ?. If you haven't worked out what the catch is yet, think back to earlier paragraphs of this document that explain why the web is seen to be slow in the first place... 1. the electronic highways are congested. 2. web servers may not have the capacity to serve any quicker. 3. web-accelerators download pages that may not be needed or looked at. ... and the alchemists in the web-accelerator business' answer to this is to push more traffic onto the networks and more work onto the web-servers. Now you see the catch. Good. To illustrate the problem, consider the average web surfer visiting our website for a 30 minute browse. Let's assume the visitor is able to find the content she came looking for and reads it. Based on traffic at the Internet Movie Database (IMDb) we might expect this user to download between 10 and 30 pages (downloading and reading 1 page per minute on average as a maximum isn't an unreasonable assumption). For the IMDb, each page contains an average of more than 100 links to other pages, so the 10-30 pages shown to the user will contain some 1000-3000+ links. We have observed on many occasions web-accelerators requesting all the links on the currently viewed page, so our average visitor is now requesting 1000-3000+ pages in 30 minutes with her web-accelerator; that's one page every 1.8 to 0.6 seconds. In reality we've seen web-accelerators go much faster than this and do so for hours at a time. If all of this wasn't bad enough, there's more. The ingenious reader may well be thinking all we need to do is refuse to serve web-accelerators and they'll become extinct, or at least they'll not be a bother to web server administrators wise to them. If only that were possible, well to a degree it is since some web-accelerators identify themselves to servers and the servers are entitled to refuse service as they see fit. The problem with this antidote to prefetching is that there are growing number of web-accelerators which hide behind anonymity, or to be more precise they hide behind the 'good name' of others. Web-accelerators often masquerade as Mozilla (Netscape browsers) or MSIE (Microsoft). Some are probably written by people too clueless to realise they are supposed to identify their HTTP agents properly while others are perhaps happy to shift the blame for web-accelerator abuses onto the browser makers. Readers familiar with web server administration may relate web-accelerator problems to those of robots and crawlers. For almost as long as there have been web servers there have been robots/crawlers. Very early on it became apparent to many that unless these HTTP agents followed common sense guidelines and obeyed some ground rules laid down by server administrators, the robots would be more of a nuisance than a service. Unlike web-accelerators, robots do provide a service, that of indexing sites so that search engines can refer more people to relevant services. No such rules or guidelines exist for web-accelerators although it would be simple and a step in the right direction if they followed the same set of rules as robots. Web-accelerators are a nuisance, they are counterproductive and they are a danger to some web servers and the infrastructure of the web itself. The more people use these products the slower the web will become and web surfers will perceive a need for more of these snake oil products. Web-accelerators slow down the web! © 1998 Internet Movie Database |
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Mar 10 2006, 11:39 PM
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Super Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 425 Joined: 24-September 05 Member No.: 12,212 |
i dont thiknk it's worth using. google comes up with lots of things to improve the net experiecne, btu a lot of it is just stuff that's bloating up. you don't need it, and it doesnt improve much.
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Mar 11 2006, 12:56 AM
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Super Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 202 Joined: 7-November 05 Member No.: 13,928 |
I just hope it doesn't do to servers what the fasterfox extension for firefox does cause if it's so then it probably prefetches way too much pages for you to get them from cache if you ever hit the link. It can't have any algoritm for guessing what link you'll hit next so it prefetches perhaps all the pages linked from a visited page ripping practically the server's bandwitch. This won't be too bad if you're selfish (let them have more bandwitch available!:P) but there are apache modules under work to ban ips that request more than "x" pages in a given time so you can be banned and worse they could ban you permanently (i don't really know if this can be done if you have a dinamic ip adress, that's what i've read.) So i hope google makes this in a smarter way, healthier for the whole internet.
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Mar 11 2006, 12:59 PM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 11-March 06 Member No.: 19,867 |
I used this for a while, I uninstalled it because it didn't make the difference I thought it would. But, it definately did speed up my 10MB broadband slightly.
It downloads things your browser is likely to request next, the key phrase. On a large broadband connection the extra background downloading is unlikely to make a difference while it is happening, which means your experience probably will be faster, but a dial up will really be feeling the background downloads and they will potentially slow it. |
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Mar 11 2006, 02:52 PM
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Member [Level 1] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 60 Joined: 9-March 06 From: Russian Federation, N.Novgorod Member No.: 19,748 |
I do not think that it in general may speed up as that the Internet, for certain it is made for advertising
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Mar 12 2006, 04:35 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 143 Joined: 9-March 06 Member No.: 19,721 |
I would love to use this but it seems that there is some type of user limit, "too many people using this service" something like that and waiting to provide more.
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Mar 12 2006, 10:47 PM
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