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post Oct 21 2007, 06:16 AM
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Well, teknotom, not necessarily. Water can be charged at another place, perhaps a water fuel plant. Secondly, Water is available anywhere, especially in the oceans and the seas. People can practically create drains or pipes that drives water from the ocean to various water fuel plants. Hmm, perhaps, you can check more on it on Wikipedia.
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post Oct 30 2007, 12:47 AM
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yes it dos exsist how ever
only the maker of the caris the only one useing it for now
i will add some video about this to my web site soon so check it out
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post Oct 31 2007, 06:37 PM
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Cells that use soft water as fuel are not acceptable. If we can use hard water such as the water directly from the oceans, it would be a breakthrough technology and could change the future of energy crisis and world economics! But my little chem knowledge tells me that it is almost next to impossible. Coz you would either have to heat-up that water or break it down to it's constituent elements. But that would give us salts as the residue which damages the apparatus!!

Oil companies will close down once oil becomes rare and automobile companies will have to find alternate fuels.


QUOTE(DogEater008 @ Oct 8 2005, 10:35 PM) *
 BUt water is an abundant source so it's nothing to worry about and it's easy to make water anyway.

Is this come kind of a joke??? mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif Take a look at this picture:


Thsi is a regular sight in many countries. Even in upscale cities like mumbai(India), we get water for just 4 hrs a day. This has become a way of life. True, we have a borewell connection for every building but that provides only hard water. 

It also isn't easy to create water!!!! You can take out Hydrogen and Oxygen from water but you can't make water just by adding H and O!!!!!

Last night I read in the papers that some famous seer has predicted that the 3rd world war would be for possession of drinking water!! This is a serious issue guys.


This is my plea to everyone. Please donot waste precious water. By saving water you may not help other countries but you can ensure that your nation does not face a water crisis in the near future.
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post Nov 23 2007, 05:47 AM
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Can someone please e-mail me if they can find a link of anything that talks about converting water to hydrogen using electricity and being able to make that hydrogen combustible at a large rate iv already done this but at a very small rate, is there something I can use different than graphite as conductors stuff like that but specific thanks a lot stephemmm att aim_dot_com

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post Nov 23 2007, 07:01 AM
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John,

Even giant corporates admit that creating hydrogen from H2O is costly and takes long time. I do not believe any countermeasure of creating hydrogen at a faster rate has been discovered, yet.

If any device that can electrolyte to separate hydrogen from water, it would be the end of the current quest "how do we get inexpensive H2?"

The second quest is to convince the world hydrogen is safe. But thanks to misconception of Hindenburg explosion, the world will never trust hydrogen and its usefulness. As we now know, hydrogen was NOT the cause of the explosion but, the static electricity sparked by the outer coating of airship's canvas--cordite.

There's a U.S. patent of high compressed water pressurized motor that can generate enough energy to move a vehicle at 50 MPH (miles per hour). No other fossil fuel burning device is needed. This same invention is followed by more efficient engine--compressed air engine that clams to move a vehicle at 80 MPH. These patents were invented by an American whose son has taken over advocating compressed air engine. However, due to other ramification, this invention is not widely accepted by automotive industries. You can smell the conspiracy from miles away.

On more positive side: scientists are now working on bioelectric engine. Scientists are hard at work on gathering the usefulness of bacterias that release electricity through metabolism. When I read about this I immediately thought of Back To The Future movie where Doc puts banana peels to power the time traveling car. Together with bioelectricity and hybrid engine we can cut 50% of oil consumption, by my calculation. Imagine that a single fill up can last you a month or more, and the streets will be free from litters because they could be the very source of bioelectricity. Ah... allow me to dream wink.gif
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post Nov 28 2007, 11:37 AM
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I happened to stumble over this subject, its funny cause me and my bro where looking it up yesterday, because of the sudden BOOM in diesel prices

The way a water fueled car works...
the tank is filled as normal but with water!.. there is a box (sorry thats all i can describe it as) that makes a chemical reaction causing the h2o to become oxygen(o) and hydrogen(h2)
its actually the HYDROGEN thats used not the water! the plus side of using this technology???
When hydrogen is burned its bi-product is, wait for it, water so it loops over and over occasionally needing a top up! it smelly lovely mother nature loves it (no pollution) if we were to use it sure wed put oil companies out of business however they'd find somewhere to use it like plastic biggrin.gif plastic is oil!

If anyone is worried about the boom in oil prices you can use normal cooking oil mixing it 10% deisel to 90% rapeseed oil is the best but normal cooking oil will suffice however make sure you can find an mot guy that can keep his mouth SHUT! or about a couple of days later switch back to diesel and theres no worries!

hope this helps
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post Dec 1 2007, 09:03 PM
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I'm pretty sure they've come up with a water or hydrogen powered engine, but if you think about it, it would kind of suck to have one. If everyone started getting them, they would start charging a lot of money for water. The more people want something, the more it's going to cost. Then a bunch of people in poor countries where water isn't as abundant won't be able to get any. That would just suck.

What we need is an oxygen powered engine. They can't really charge for air, can they? I just hope they never find out how make you pay for air...
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post Dec 2 2007, 03:45 AM
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QUOTE(dundun2007 @ Oct 17 2007, 06:57 PM) *
A water engine is very unrealistic, it probably exsist but it would serve no purpose. The water engine would have to do vast amounts of water to propell a car and the car size would increase by like 5x to beable to support enough water to last as long as a full tank of gas. On the other hand though the fuel cell is becoming very popular and the by product of hydrogen of course is water. The main issue with these fuel cells is that its extremley dangerous, although they have done a good job of reducing the risk with a very secure cell. Although when a hydrogen station explodes its alot different from a gas station, it would cause a much greater explosion. Take for example the hydrogen bomb thats what could be caused if something were to go terribly wrong.


The water as fuel concept is interesting. If the method of separating the hydrogen from water is one that actually works, it will be interesting to see how much water by volume is necessary to create sufficient hydrogen to take your vehicle out and bring it back home. Storing hydrogen in the form of water for chemical release is a very safe way to keep it, since water is non-volatile. The only mystery is the amount of hydrogen that can be extracted from the water. There is also an interesting possibility of extracting water from the steam that is the natural result of hydrogen combustion.

Is there any ready data in laymens terms about the conversion rates of water into hydrogen under this method? Because if it comes out anywhere near the apparent volume of hydrogen in water, it appears that 10 gallons of water (roughly 86 lbs.) would be more than adequate. 20 lbs of hydrogen is a WHOLE lot of hydrogen in an uncompressed state, so some sort of safe compression technology would need to be employed -probably in a vacuum or near vacuum, or with an inert gas like argon or something to create the pressure for compression.

Hydrogen is very volatile in its natural state, inviting itself to combine with oxygen, in order to become less volatile. But the trick is that the process of combining itself with oxygen is a danger to humans, and the property we have developed. It will tend to explode, no doubt. But you need not fear a nuclear explosion. Ambient or compressed hydrogen lacks the electron speed to force the fusion reaction it would require to create a thermonuclear reaction. Therefore, a thermonuclear explosion as the hydrogen bomb produces is out of the question. But, the next best thing, a fuel/air bomb of some type is highly possible with hydrogen as the fuel source. That said, there appears to be enough technology around to manage hydrogen. You can buy compressed hydrogen at any welding supply store. I have seen truckloads of compressed hydrogen on the interstate highway system, so its volatility is able to be controlled. The best proof of this is the space shuttle, which is launched using liquid (compressed) hydrogen, and its single launch failure was due to a problem with its SOLID rocket boosters. So hydrogen is relatively safe, when handles properly.

The idea of using hydrogen generated from water as a fuel source is certailny worth looking into. I am just going to have to try the experiment mentioned in the link. If it works, my family can save a few dollars a day. Not bad. Oh, BTW, I saw a guy driving a water powered (so he said) chevy truck around Atlanta, GA about a month ago. I didn't get a chance to talk to him because he was going too fast. But his truck had water-powered written all over it, along with a web link. I wrote it down, but can't remember where it is right now. If I find it, I will post it here.

Could really be on to something... Let's see.
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