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Halloween And Christians

, It's origin and, should we celebrate it?

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Post #11 post Sep 26 2005, 08:58 PM
I myself am a Christian, so I hate to be slumped into the 'we hate everything that doesn't have to do with God' group. So, please, don't be stereotypical.

You did bring up a good point though. Cristmas was taken directly from the Roman Saturnalia -- a celebration for their family gods and the higher gods. Is Christmas, therefore, evil?
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Post #12 post Sep 26 2005, 11:58 PM
I don't think Christmas should be celebrated as the birth of Christ. However, Because it does not have, and is not centered around satanic practices, I believe it is okay to celebrate it. But as a thanksgiving for the things the Lord has given us.

But again, Halloween is evil in every part. That is why I can't agree with the practices that go along with it.

Also Cerb, remember it does say in the bible that we should think on the good things in life, the noble, pure and right things. That means that we should actually try to distance ourselves from things that are worldy. Are you saying that we should be supportive of things deemed by God us sinful or worldly? We must think carefully about what we do. And may I ask, if I don't tell people about these things, who will? We all have a duty. Why don't you research a little, I think you will be suprised.
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Post #13 post Sep 28 2005, 12:42 PM
Cerb, I appologize, I certainly did not want to be stereotypical, but I guess it did seem that way... I forgot to mention I thought about religious fanatics...

The fact remains, Christianity is not at all that original in it's customs... From various pagan religions, Christians took different customs, and automaticly, they are good. But while those customs were pagan, they were considered evil...

wild20, I agree the bible teaches people to distance themselves from material and worldly posessions. But (and there's always a but), what does the church teach us? Isn't catholic churc sitting on billions of dollars of money? Possibly more? Same goes for Orthodox church. They certainly don't show us the good example. The moment Catholic and Orthodox churches give away they immense capital, I will be first to try my best to become a believer.

I still stand by my words, Christians have always, and they still do, try to force their view of the things and on the world. Not so forceably now as in the past, but still force... Hence all those "In God we trust" texts on the bills, country hymns with God mentioning in them, here, in my country, church is trying to force, and they managed to a certain degree, religion in schools. It was supposed to be mandatory, but now kids have a choice, that, or some other subject (can't remember the name, something to do with society - not sociology). What about us that don't believe in God?

Woops... There I go again, sidetracked from the topic, but it's difficult not to, at leasy for me...

Is Halloween evil? Those of you who don't, do whatever that you do on Halloween. Those of you who think it is - don't celebrate it, but don't go and try to force your oppinion on us.

I think I'm done... for now wink.gif
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Post #14 post Sep 28 2005, 12:56 PM
Um... We are talking about Christians and Halloween, not Christmas. And we are talking about how God and Jesus hate it when people do witchcraft or do anything with spirits. So... yeah.
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Post #15 post Sep 28 2005, 04:10 PM
Again, I am not trying to force my religion on anyone. But I am trying to make a point, to Christians, that we should not celebrate it.

Galahad:

Are you saying, that the only thing that is keeping you from becoming a believer, is a church a that sets a bad example? Many people are wrong by forcing their religion on people. The bible says that it is a freewill choice, made by you. No one has to accept God, but in order for God to change a life, you must accept Him first. I honestly believe this, and so will not "force" my religion on anyone. But I will still stand by what I said by saying that, as a Christian, it is wrong to celebrate Halloween. Personally I think it wrong for anyone to celebrate Halloween. But that is for another time.

And also Galahad, remember, the bible teaches us that we ought to obey God, rather than men! This does not mean break the law, for our law is built upon the bible. Also, our country was founded on the belief of God. People can come in and live whether they are Christian or not. But we must keep this country's heritage and because we were founded on the belief of God, we will remain under God. It doen't mean that we will force God down your throats. But lets get back on topic.

As I was saying, Halloween was based on a night of evil, where people tried their hardest to sacre evil spirits and ghosts away. I just can't think of how there is any good in it. The costumes we get now, of ghosts, goblins, witches, were the same things that the people of lreland were trying to scare away. We have actually turned this holiday from bad, to worse. And so I hold to my claim that Christians should aviod this holiday.
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Post #16 post Sep 29 2005, 08:34 PM
I really enjoy Hallloween. I think it's something to look forward to in the year other than Christmas, Easter or your Birthday. I've been Trick-or-Treating since I was about 5. tongue.gif
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Post #17 post Sep 30 2005, 12:13 AM
I'm a deep believer, and find I'm not really against it (at least in what it's become). It's a dumb idea, dressing up in costumes that have no point to them. But it's not a real holiday in my opinion, it's just a day for kids to have fun. If you don't like it, don't go out and don't give out candy. That's what I do. And the my friends think I'm weird because of that.
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Post #18 post Sep 30 2005, 12:54 PM
I think you should celebrate it if you want to, no matter what religion you are. It's not wrong. It maybe a sin. But so are many things people do. We sin everyday. So we gotta take that out on a Holiday? Thats dumb. If you don't want to celebrate it, fine. But don't make everyone else stop celebrating it too just because you feel it is wrong.
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Post #19 post Sep 30 2005, 03:21 PM
It's really a no-brainer. Just about all "Christian" holidays are just modifications of older pagan holidays. Christmas is based on a Roman holiday around the same time of year where they would give little idols and such to each other. A holiday at easter time has been celebrated since the Egyptians.

As for Halloween, I live in Australia like FuChelle... I really the whole idea is ridiculous. In fact, I abuse people who think it'd be cool to do Halloween.

Speaking of which... it's about that time, isn't it?
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Post #20 post Sep 30 2005, 04:00 PM
Ao)K-General:
I am slightly appaled at your reasoning! You are basically saying it is okay to sin as many times as we want to because we sin everyday. The point as a Christian is to improve! If you can use that logic everywhere, there would be mass choas. And again, I am not trying to make you guys stop, man, people have VERY touchy opinions around here. If you don't like the topic, just don't reply to it.

Dexter:
Yes, you have a point there, but I am trying to make a statement that halloween actually had satanic origins. However, Easter is a little different, sure the Egyptians may have celebrated a holiday, but it is just a coincidence that it fell around the time of Christs death. Easter, for me, is a time where I remember what God has done for us, By sending His Son to die for us.
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