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Jan 26 2005, 11:07 PM
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QUOTE(Milk @ Jan 12 2005, 04:42 PM) Of course I see your points made, but adoption isn't always the best. I mean, maybe you feel it is better to be alive instead of having been forced out of the process of being born, but I would rather have lived with both my biological parents then some people that may have nothing in common with me and cannot share many of my own traits. I mean, adoption is nice and all...but...I dunno. Are there other options other than adoption and abortion? You ask anyone who has been adopted as an infant, there is no problem with it. The only way they can figure it out is if their parents tell them or if they accidently come across papers(Or if they're a completely different race). Have you ever seen the movie Snow Dogs? I know it sounds stupid to mention, but if you really think about it, it makes some good points. |
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Jan 26 2005, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE(skyline @ Jan 26 2005, 11:57 PM) I'm against it first of all if you dont want to have a baby dont have sex or unprotected sex. And be on Birth control pills incase the condom breaks. Its like killing and who knows that kid could have a great life an amount to something in his or her life. He or she could be really smart and get a scalership and go to a great university but know they cant be cause they where killed inside there "mom". And if they dont want the kid so much just give him or her to and ophanige so he or she can at least have a life. So... you should only have sex if you wanted to make a baby? You must be kidding. Seriously. And really, any of the million sperm that don't make it to the egg could be really "successful" people. Does that mean a million kids are murdered each time a guy ejaculates? |
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Jan 26 2005, 11:33 PM
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I believe abortion is murder. That is why I am against abortion. I am also a single male and have not been put in a situation where my baby's life might be terminated by a doctor. Also, I find it ironic that a doctor can legally kill a baby, but other than abortion killing an unborn baby is illegal and the baby's life is counted.
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Jan 26 2005, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE(bjrn @ Jan 26 2005, 06:21 PM) So... you should only have sex if you wanted to make a baby? You must be kidding. Seriously. And really, any of the million sperm that don't make it to the egg could be really "successful" people. Does that mean a million kids are murdered each time a guy ejaculates? Abortion is When a doctor takes the life of a 28-ish week old fetus. At 28 weeks, the babies heart and brain are forming. Please get your facts straight. |
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Jan 26 2005, 11:51 PM
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Super Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 408 Joined: 7-December 04 From: Nova Scoita, Canada Member No.: 2,604 |
QUOTE Abortion is When a doctor takes the life of a 28-ish week old fetus. At 28 weeks, the babies heart and brain are forming. Please get your facts straight. Not that I am for abortion but mice have brains too. Should they be entitled to all the rights as people? 28 weeks is an arbitrary definition. |
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Jan 26 2005, 11:53 PM
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I am against abortion. I have a couple of reasons for it to. For one thing it goes against alot of religions. I also feel that it is murder. I think that a baby is a living thing. My reason behind that is this. Look at what will happen if the baby does not get food it dies. And for something to be able to die it had to be alive at one point. But even though It may be wrong. People are always going to find ways to get them. Even if they make a law saying that it is illegal.
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Jan 27 2005, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE(vettefreak90 @ Jan 27 2005, 12:38 AM) Abortion is When a doctor takes the life of a 28-ish week old fetus. At 28 weeks, the babies heart and brain are forming. Please get your facts straight. Interesting. A fetus becomes a human being at 28 weeks. And not only that, but abortions aren't performed unless the fetus is 28 weeks old. Very interesting. Thanks for getting my facts straightened out. Or perhaps the fact that it is human doesn't matter to you, and you think that everything that has a (or is forming) brain should be allowed to live. In which case you probably are a vegan, which is fine by me. Of course, you will have tremendous difficulty with setting a definition for when "forming a brain and heart" starts. But that 28 weeks rule was certainly interesting. |
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Jan 27 2005, 12:10 AM
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Super Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 408 Joined: 7-December 04 From: Nova Scoita, Canada Member No.: 2,604 |
QUOTE For one thing it goes against alot of religions. Religion is not a base for things but I am curious as to what passages religious references discuss abortion. QUOTE I also feel that it is murder. This debate is founded in feeling and does not stem from a sensible set of ethically principles. A society can pass laws based on such feelings if it chooses but when issues are less morally clear it is better to give the individuals involved the right to choose what they feel is right and wrong based on their own set of beliefs. QUOTE I think that a baby is a living thing.. Right a baby is a living thing. Agreed. What about a fetus, an egg a sperm. When does life begin and when does that life become something a society should protect. An ant is a living thing. Should we stop people from getting rid of ant hills? If I was with somome who wanted to abort a child I don’t know how I would feel and If I was asked for my opinion and I wasn’t ready for a child I don’t know what I would choose. I know if there was a chance I could reasonably take care of the child I would want the girl to have it unless the child would become a pawn in some unhealthy relationship. |
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Jan 27 2005, 02:30 AM
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Super Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 270 Joined: 2-December 04 Member No.: 2,503 |
QUOTE Also, I find it ironic that a doctor can legally kill a baby, but other than abortion killing an unborn baby is illegal and the baby's life is counted. The doctor does not kill a baby. The doctor aborts a fetus from developing into a baby. QUOTE For one thing it goes against alot of religions. I also feel that it is murder. I think that a baby is a living thing. My reason behind that is this. Look at what will happen if the baby does not get food it dies. And for something to be able to die it had to be alive at one point. But even though It may be wrong. You cannot use religion to base your argument. Religions are beliefs. They are not necessarily moral, they are basically organizations that tell you what is moral and what is not. Morality isn't based on what a group of people think. If abortion was murder, then why haven't millions of women in the world been arrested? It's wrong to say it's murder because murder involves the homicidal act of killing another being who has all the parts to be a full being. You people are confusing the difference between a fetus and a baby. The baby is a baby when it is fully developed inside the womb. If the fetus does not get food, then yes, it ceases to survive, but that also means that the mother is not getting the needed food and therefore will die herself, unless the fetus recieves food from ot |