I have windows vista and i really don't see the startup time to be that bad at all.

Takes at least a min to startup and shutdown is basically a few seconds. Shutdown is the fastest process for all computers.

I think people are bs on the startup time. Today in my computer class we brought a ancient computer to life running windows 95, took at least 5 minutes to startup which included startup programs. Shutdown time was a minute.

Vista is not that bad all users are just confused by the new look which is not that hard to understand. If users can adjust to the new office which i find to be more complex than vista.