I believe you annoyed them. If they came to your site for 'The Mist', that's where you get a page view, but then they realize that all you've got are trailers, which they can easily get from youtube, so they feel cheated and never come back again. Do you think they would even bother looking at your ads and clicking them after you annoyed them so?

In my opinion, if you want quick bucks, you've still got to have regular visitors who keep coming back, or even better, introduce your website to their friends. Spruce up your webpage and the original content that it offers. Never lie to your visitors! Most people get turned off by products that offer something but never live up to expectations. Same goes for websites. If you put search terms that do not reflect actual content for your website, all you'll get is the one page view when people enter your website.

This post has been edited by bishoujo: Nov 28 2007, 03:37 AM

still missing the point. he doesn't care about repeat visitors. all he cares about is the postenial first time fisitors that will probably never return. now when he bragged about 600 visitors a day, if that is true, then in my opinion, is is doing something right. maybe not perfect, and yes, if it were me, i would do things a little different, but it's his site. he doesn't need repeat visitors he said, he doesn't care about the content, and he only cares about the clicks on the ads

now again, if people are clicking(i don't know why he would go to all the trouble of constanly changing his site if they weren't) then he is doing something RIGHT not WRONG despite other peoples opinon on how he should design his own personal website.

with that said the internet is made up of a diversity of people and information and how that information is accessed. i it were all the same, it would be BORING. i am glad i have a right to create my site however i want to and i am glad other people have that same right. people can pass judgement, but i dare anyone who does to give me their website to crtique because i can pass judgement the same way. fact is, NOTHING will ever be good enough for others, but if what we do makes our own selves happy, then that alone should be good enough

the internet is a library of information but is not bound by limitations or rules. i am glad it's like this because when i create my next site, i don't want people telling me how wrong i am to have built such a site

on the flip side, i doubt i would have done it the same way he did. i feel there is potential for a lot more content and interest but like a lot of people, he's in it for the short term. not the long term. the internet, aside from being a library for information, it is a business marketplace. it's where the little guy can compete with the big guy....espeically if you have that creativeness that can succeed on the net there are no limitations and if there is little content on the page, so what. if people <- snipped -> despite the little content, great. fact is, most people may be disappointed, but some may actually like the ads or the relevant trailer. great....some....so if it doesn't appeal to the masses, it's rubbish? RUBISH i say!

ok now that i made my speech, i will now say how i would run that site. create a relevant domain, create a relevant home page to the entertainment industry. whenever there is a need for new keywords to be used, create a speperate page. takes a couple hours to create a good page with 1 or 2 specific keywords. don't change the main page and put the updated page in a seperate folder or create a subdomain specifically for those 1-2 keywords. the page will still get a high ranking and you never have to change it again. all you have to do is creat a relevent link to that page on your home page. beofre you know it, you will have 100's of pages you never have to edit or modify and at the same time, getting the same amount of hits and your website now is more relevant and will attract long term visitors if you have the upper hand in the movies coming out. people will even start bookmarking your site and you get the repeat visitors. more visitors=more clicks obviously

ok. i'm not judging, i think he has a great concept so i just wanted to give my opinion on impoving the site.

sanjay- why don't you post a link to your site so we all have a better idea of what you're talking about?

Ok, you got the visitors, now what?
You win visitors, not members, cause there's nothing related to the search they made...

Right?

Greetz
~
João Lopes

did you read what he posted? he said once he gets the visitors there, they will click on his ads
also, i have created several succesfull sites in the past. not one site was a members site. anyone could surf my sites and browse so having members doesn't disctate anything really...except to hide information from people who aren't members

And for how long will he attract visitors? When people realise his site offers nothing but crap, when his site pops up in a search, they will not click on it again... And why on Earth would anyone click on an ad, on a page that offers no real content?

I seriousely doubt he makes any real profit, I bet he's just a kid, who earns 5 to 10 dollars, and thinks it's a great practice... What he actualy does, is degrade the quality of the internet... Hopefully search engine robots will become much smarter in the near future, and that sites like the one this guy makes, will never be show in searches...

And anwiii why are you so passionately defending him? Can't he speak for himself? Or are the two of you connected in some way?

If people are going to your site by the hundreds, it better be about Mist or else they'll be hitting the back button in about half a second. I don't believe adding useless meta will help your site, it'll only ruin your credibility for wasting people's time.

I did not miss the point. I was merely giving my suggestions. He started a discussion about sending visitors to his websites. I'm merely saying what I felt would be a better way. Personally, if I was misled into entering a website and not finding what I expect to see, I'd just leave without bothering about other content or ads. And I'd tell my friends not to visit his website too, because I really hate bogus websites. As Galahad aptly pointed out, the quality of the internet is degrading, thanks to all these bogus websites. There are just too many of this crap around. Believe me, if you want to earn money with ads, you'd do better to have a unique site, rather than a copycat site, and a poor-quality one too. Using the Mist example, I guess it's all right if you use Mist as a search term and put the trailer there, but if you put something like Mist full download, Mist rip or something, then that's a blatant lie and you really will offend a lot of visitors.

Anwiii, why do you keep saying other people are missing his point, just because we don't agree with his method? You yourself said he is free to choose whatever method he likes to get hits as long as they work. So we are are free to have our own methods and talk about them too. I believe you yourself are missing our point. Let me explain to you. Many of us don't agree with his method because we don't like being cheated. As dre says, his website's credibility will be ruined. Imagine for example, someone blogs about his website, or writes about it in a forum, complaining how bogus it is. Nobody's going to bother entering it even if his website/domain shows up on their search engine. Sooner or later, his method will cease to work and he'll have to make another website and start all over again.

Let me reiterate, we DO get his point, so kindly stop insulting our intelligence. We know that what he wants to do is attract first-time visitors to his website using search terms. When they come, he is hoping they will click his ads on the website since they are probably going to be relevant to what they are looking for, and he'll earn money from there. We aren't trying to teach him how to get visitors to come back. We are just discussing what we think about his method, as that's obviously one of the main purposes of a discussion forum.

This post has been edited by bishoujo: Nov 29 2007, 05:46 AM