Yup, that's why I was willing to help, to reduce the burden from one person, ghostrider can take care of PHP and I can do CSS while you do toe HTML if you want. And yes, collaborating on the graphics is perfectly fine for me! We can communicate through e-mails as usual of course and/or messenger services. I use Gtalk and Y!M but I also have MSN and AIM so I don't think anyone of us could possibly have a problem while speaking to me.

I am not using my hosting for now much, but I am working on the site and other things as well, I use it to host misc. stuff, like a forum for my community on orkut for now, some images and my site's "under construction" page. So I can't give out my hosting either. But I will never be using entire 500 MB so I can share out some, but then bandwidth and URl would be problems! I guess we can figure this one out later on.

Well, are there any other good features of having a wiki apart from the content being editable by everyone? If no, then I guess there's no reason for us to have a wiki up there. And I personally think we should keep ideas in general, 'cause if we keep on adding features on features, it'll just be a mess and all we want is a autobiography site.

For the tag-line, I guess "Your article, Your story, Your (Name of site)" would do better as the pages on Wikipedia are "articles"? And Wikipedia + MySpace is where this idea came from? But yeah, I'll think of some more for sure.

OK perfectly fine with me. I know CSS super well also and I want it all validated, so if your having any problems ask, or you could write it and i could go over it or something. First we need a name before we can start on the graphics. Should i start a new topic with a poll or just start the poll here and we can add names to this post using the edit option? Also im on all of those usually at once. Where do you live though? Because i might be sleeping when your eating dinner.



I think if we actually used all 500mbs and/or use the bandwidth up we might as well get some paid hosting because that would be a lot of visitors to a mostly text based site.

I dont believe so. I have never used it. I'm sure Ghostrider could add that option. A simple if or statement. If friend allow editing to allowed editing areas and or if they are not friends send a request and deny them editing access. Something like that. That is true also. For now im going to write the list of features on the bottom of this post that have to be done. The minimalist form of the site and then add things later.



Yah i came up with it in about 20 seconds, but I wanted an example. We will have a vote on this also. This would be a great project if done as a collab project. Vote for the name. Have some logos made then vote. Have the taglined voted on. And anything else.




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So features that are the bare bones.

Needs to have a user system with a the sign up process that we will choose. Right now i'm liking the idea of the photo. If so then we would need a sign up page, yes one page, that would include, but subject to change:

*Name (first and last in seperate fields)
*Age (im not sure what the min age should be. Maybe 16 and if younger parents permission?)
*username (can be same as name)
*password (4-16 characters?)
*photo upload for the scamming. (Instructions would need to be provided with a little icon to the right in a pop up window.)
*Submit button

Thats the sign up page. The other systems needed would be:

*Friend System. (People get added and are given permissions to edit parts of page, but not all) Should be able to delete and add
*A way to edit the pages
*Edit personal info with religion, sex, etc. which would be on their page in a little box of quick info.
*A messaging system like in phpbb and here. With a cap limit on sent and stored.
*Upload form for photos. (Video would be nice, but takes up to much space) Maybe a built in login and upload in our site but it uploads to their youtube?
*Privacy settings. What parts are viewable and what arent as well as what can be edited as friends/family
*counter system for each person
*a personal URL like FirstnameLastname.websitename.com or websitename.com/firstnamelastname whatever is easiest or people would like.


Other things will be added, but those so far are the basics. Some features i dont know if i should add which could make it like myspace... eww... but could be useful in many ways are:

*custom HTML support. This could be useful for bolding letters or underlining and the Wiki system is not as well known as HTML.
*custom CSS for their bio.
*be able to make a book cover which when you click goes to their bio.
*convert their bio to a pdf???


Im thinking a SUPER SIMPLE editor though. All html based (maybe if we want them to be able to use html) and its a blank page. You can edit it totally blank or use templates where you just add text and colors and font weights and links. You can add titles also, but nothing is set in stone where it should go. So we wont have "Your favorite memory of grandma." It's all blank like Wikipedia, but when you tell it to add a header it makes it nice and has a little line or something decorative.


Possible Names so far are:

IF Wiki site is chosen:
*WikiBio
*WikiFriends
*WikiMe
*WikiPeople

If not:
*yourlife.com
*ourlife.com
*autobiographies.com
*yourstory.com
*thepeopleproject.com


So there are ideas. Keep thinking! Please nothing with mysomthing or isomething. Something original.

Thanks maybe get this started in a few days? I could get the main layout sketched out as well as some logos for the final 3 names we choose. As well as choose if we will use wiki or not. Tell me what names you like or really dont like for each Wiki and non wiki.

Don't know if you guys were thinking like this, but it would be best imo if only the owner of the 'profile' of himself could approve changes to his page.

But good idea I like that idea of making only certain parts viewable to public, and others to friends. Sounds like a great idea so far!

I couldn't help much though lol, otherwise I would consider it. I'm only good with HTML and CSS...I can edit some PHP, but can't create it.

Actually we did talk about this and it would have to be done or else it could end up a mess

How well do you know CSS and HTML? The more the merrier.

I think this is a brilliant idea, but the system would need to be kept as simple as possible. A large number of templates and easy ways to add text, images, videos etc needs to be devised. Most people who visit the site will have no idea what HTML is and will simply want to fill their part of the site with as much content as possible.

Starting off with a blank page is a great idea - it means every page is completely personal, but you still need a way to let people easily make the page look presentable. An idea would be to allow people to post their snippets of text or whatever and provide a settings page somewhere to configure text colours, backgrounds and things like that. A really simple JavaScript colour picker or something similar would also work quite well.


Requesting a parent's permission is not usually that effective, as people who want to get around it simply use a second account of their own. In the US you need to comply with COPPA if you allow access to children under the age of 13. This involves mailing out or faxing forms to parents, or verifying credit card information. Both take a bit of time both for you and the parent and can deter a lot of people. Asking for a date of birth is also ineffective as people just lie about their birth year. This is a problem that plagues all social networking sites and hasn't yet really been resolved.

Also, all of the web addresses suggested are already registered

Anyway, I'm willing to help out with any PHP, MySQL, HTML, CSS or design stuff if you need it.

Not a bad idea to be honest. I'd have to agree it has to be kept as simple as possible, but with less of the bugs that myspace has (eg the Music lagging up the load times of the blog space). At least it would seem pretty easy to edit if it was in a similar style to the wiki.

I really think we should have voting for almost everything from names to tag-lines. 'cause one person deciding stuff will definitely not be a good idea. I really like the idea of having a simple editing system and a blank-default-page thing and then yes, we can even have a simple template system for them to edit later for newbie HTML literate people. I agree with pretty much all the features there, but I guess we can ask them to give us the link of their video on YouTube? Like we have on orkut?

I guess we should go with COPPA for under 13 children? But I guess keeping the minimum age 16 is quite good too, 'cause right now most 13 to 15 year olds are too lost in trends! You can put up the poll once we get a few more sugesstions into this thing and a new topic would be better according to me. And I don't think any of the features you've mentioned so far need to be removed or added more, more features according to me would just make it more heavy and messy I guess?

And yes, starting it off in a few days won't be a problem for me at all... I live in India, and follow IST which is GMT +5.30, so well we can sort the timings out.

And yes, I guess we should get paid hosting and what about the domain?

This post has been edited by sylenzednuke: Jun 11 2007, 02:36 PM

Would trap17 be enough? Just curious what your host would be. The only problem with trap17, is if you go over (which it will in bandwidth if this goes big), there's not a way to really increase bandwidth. I know some good hosts. Since I don't want to 'spam', pm me if you need help finding one.

As for me, I would say I'm really good with HTML and CSS. I'm not so good at creating templates and such though, I'm only good if I'm told what to create or making edits, since I'm not the 'creative' type.

Will there also be an image, music, pic, etc upload tool? It would be cool, but not sure what it takes to make..and it would be a waste of bandwidth lol. Maybe it would be best if they just hotlink their content But if there was an upload tool, it should show you the code to implement it once submitted. Then, after submitted, you can click on a link 'Previous Uploads', that would show all content (clips on pause, and music files with Just the name, or maybe all with just names and extensions), and next to all of the content, include it's code. Or, just include all content that was uploaded, and when each item is clicked, it would go to that item's code. Hotlinking only would be much easier though.

As for the idea of only allowing certsain people to see certain content, maybe there should be like a BBCode type thing, where the user would input [friends]Friends only content here[/friends].