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Turkey In The Eu: Yes Or No?

, Debate on whether Turkey's entry petition in the EU should be acce

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Post #11 post Feb 19 2008, 06:23 PM
From when is Turkey considered as a part of Europe?
Adding Turkey have negative effects more than positive ones.!!!
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Post #12 post May 12 2008, 03:50 PM
I am from Turkey and we Turks don't want to join the EU?
By the way Turkey is not correct writing style for along time. Right one is TURKIYE.
And Turkiye has no need to join the EU even Turkiye have unemployed people.
Turkiye is the succesor of Ottomans or will be.
Our presidents try to join the EU. But they will realize the truth that joining the EU will not be usefull for Turkiye.

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Post #13 post May 23 2008, 04:54 PM
Greetings from Turkiye,
My opinion is EU politicians acting unfair to Turkey. They are hypocrite in my eyes. That's why as a Turk, I dont want to part of EU. Because of EU's attitude toward us, I believe joing EU means losing independence. When I was younger, this whole EU progress makes me excited but now Im just feeling disappointment. It's just a happy dream, Europeans will accept us as brothers & sisters.
---Anyway, these are just my thoughts and feelings---



Sorry if it's off topic but... I cant resist

About Kurds:
1st of all, I dont know what you see from there but there isnt a big problem among people. That's mostly politics. And about PKK... It's a terrorist organization that killed many civilians (Kurds-Turks-tourists-teachers-doctors-workers-kids etc).

and about so called Armenian genocide:
Turks accept many Armenians died, just like many Turks died. We can provide many documents (even foreign ones) that Ottoman goverment took measures to prevent deaths from both sides!

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Recognizes the Armenian revolutionary acts during world war I;

- The acts of Hincak and Dashnak party,
- Local support to Russian troops against Ottoman military,
- Local mutinies in big cities such as Van and Erzurum,
- Provocation on Armenian society in order to get support for local guerilla forces,
- Attacks on Ottoman reinforcement,
- Massacres of Muslim society,

Deploring the fact that curtain amount of Armenian population had to leave their homeland as a result of Ottoman relocation order,

- Armenians left their own properties,
- Future generations of Armenian nation was affected,
- The situation cause the division of the Armenian society,
- The situation caused mental damage on whole Armenian nation,


Recognizes the casualties of Armenian migrants during relocation as a fact,

- starvation and disease were one of the factors of causalities,
- the casualties were also got bigger by local civilian attack on Armenian migrant convoys,


Recognizes “the revenge” killings of Armenians on Muslim society after the relocation in South Eastern region such as Adana, Maras, Antep and Urfa,

- Those attacks were supported by Allied powers and cause serious damage on local society,


Recognizes the effort of Ottoman government to stop Armenian causalities and to support Armenians during relocation,

- Protection of The Armenian Convoys and The Punishments of Those Whom Attack The Convoys.
- Investigation of the people who disturbed Armenians during relocation
- Security of the Relocated Armenians,
- Determining The Debts of Relocated Armenians and Protection of Their Properties,
- Feeding of Armenian Families,
- Assistance for The Returning Armenians and Meeting Their Needs.
- The Exemption of Armenians from Taxes.
- The Courts of The People Who Committed Crimes During Relocation.

source


about Cyrups:
Turks living in the island are gratefull that Turkish army joined the conflict. Becasue local Turks believe if it werent the army, there would be no Turks left on the island.

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By the way, you see. Even in a simple thread "Turkey should join EU or not" I had to defence myself from exaggerated accusitaitons. Therefore, I dont want to join EU, unless EU is ready to accept me as brother rather than barbaric Turk.

One last thing. Turkey is an European country. Why not? We compete in Eurovision, we compete in european league when it comes to WorldCup (football), our local teams compete in European cups. Whenever a classification made, Turkey put under the Europe collum. Becasue we are not Asian anymore!

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This part is for Erdemir, I couldnt send him a PM so pardon me :)

Bence İngilizce'de Turkey denmesinin bir sakıncası yok. Sonuçta eş anlamlı kelimeler olabilir. Tabii eğer bu durumu dalga malzemesi olarak kullanırlarsa ben de sert çıkarım ama çoğu yabancı öyle düşünmüyor. Aynı bizim mısır ile Mısır'ın farkını bilmemiz gibi.
Bu arada bu yazıyı okursan konuya daha rahat hakim olursun:
http://0ksijen.spaces.live.com/blog/cns...A!985.entry


This post has been edited by Janissary: May 25 2008, 06:43 AM
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Post #14 post May 23 2008, 11:04 PM
Thanks for your informative post, Janissary. I exactly agree with your ideas.
And I am happy that there is also someone doesn't want to join the EU.
And I read the article in your site and learnt about Turkey writing style.
Thanks...

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