Four years ago, I heard that the religion that has done the most suicide bombings is in fact Hinduism. Protestants and catholics have been blowing each other up in Ireland. The Spanish had the Inquisition, the Crusades killed hundreds of thousands of people in the name of christianity. The Jews are blowing up Palestine and Lebanon. You cannot claim that Islam is the only religion to have committed horrendous acts of brutality.

I know the extremist is not the real word... By extremist I mean Violent and that will never condamn thoese who make violence. (not every muslemin is making violent act, but every body agree to the coran that don't condamn this acts). For me this is like if every body was making violence.

their concept of right & wrong is totaly different form mine! because I will never applicate violence to violence.

What for me is right is what is good for me as for the Society, but for them is just what is good for God (and here we can discuss how they know what is good for god)

What is wrong for me is what is bad for me or for society, and/or what is good only for me and bad for others. For them is wrong what ever is against their religion, even if it is very good for the Society.

Good and bad are not relatives. Forbidden things and acceptable things is relative. there is no way that violence can be good even if somewhere is permitted.

I applaud my self for trying to be free to express what ever I think is Good.

Your concept of "neutral" is very different from mine. For me neutral is the one who do not think about. For example I'm not at all "neutral"!

Please note every one, that with this discussion I don't want to offend any one but I want to express what I personaly think is wrong in your religion.

NOW, these quotes you have given have no reference, so I have read the Qur'an and I have never come across those words...YOU LIAR

Basic question: Define good and bad.

Note: you can't define "good" by saying it is what is "good" for the society...what is "good" for the society?

No way is violence permitted? ...What if you have to kill a person to save the whole world? Highly unlikely, but what if?

Besides, muslims are not actually permitted to do act of violence agaisnt other. It is only when act of violence are done to them when they are permitted to do so

...Pardon, but what is neutral?

btw, choose your words more wisely..."what i think is wrong in your religion" is a bit rude.

(For muslims out there, correct me if i'm wrong. i admit i'm no muslim and i have not yet read the Qur'an... I only have muslim friends).

No real muslim ( as in a muslim hu truly understands the qu'ran) wud ever believe tht blowin up innocent ppl is rite, yes if they ar righteous they will liv in bliss, but muslims reli believe that these ppl shud hav a full life 1st

It is rong 2 h8 ppl 4 thr religion, i am actually christian, but i hav muslim frends and understand and respect ther religion. Its not ur fault, many ppl hav bn taken in by this and r unsure but muslims r in general normal, u cant thnk tht all terrorists r muslim, wat can bush and blair cum under?

you know there is a big difference. My problem is: It's true that "Protestants and catholics have been blowing each other up in Ireland", "The Spanish had the Inquisition", "the Crusades killed hundreds of thousands of people" and it also true that "the religion that has done the most suicide bombings is in fact Hinduism".
But please tell me where in the theology of thoese religions some one have wirten down that the have or had to kill? I don't see in the bible a reference to the Crusades or Inquisition.

You see? thoese have been historical facts, that have been made by huans been and his pervertion, exactly like today The Jews are blowing up Palestine and the palestinian are blowing up Jews.

For muslemin is different: it's the religion it self, with her theology and the coran it self that permit violence.
this is my problem. I'm sorry for thoese who will feel offended, but I can't tollerate a religion that in the name of God, make the word where I live more dangerous.

I find you a very big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig racist. You blaim terrorism on islam maybe? was it mohammad the holy prophet who makes bombs in buildings maybe? NO - there are weird sickos people out there in all religions. In usa there are terrorirst, do you blaim christianity? in israel there are terrorist do you blaim judaism? I think you people just want some one to blaim. If i didnt know better id say the world would be a better place without people like you. people like you are almost worst than racists, if one muslim bomb you - do you blaim all muslim? you are like hitler if not worst I hope god will punish you some day big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big racist!

I hate people like you and I think you must read more knowledge before you criticism my people and my family of being racist. you are not respectful towards us. On the other hand - must we blaim christianity that what bush have done to us? I think not. so id say that we are the smart ones and you people are the terrorists - going to countries and taking over. And no body cant say no!

I'm sorry I didn't ggive you the link. I founded out thoese vers in the site of "Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
Ministry of Islamic Affairs, Endowments, Da‘wah and Guidance": http://quran.al-islam.com/
the verses where:
1- Surah Name: Al-Baqara; Verse:191.
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