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post Feb 18 2007, 01:15 PM
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I used to meditate a lot, but real patience didn't come to me until I grew exceedingly powerful in the course of my martial arts studies. Once I achieved great personal power I found that even someone yelling in my face didn't faze me.

So while meditation is a wonderful path to mental and spiritual growth, it's not the only path, indeed.


These days if someone yells in my face I smile and tell them that they're only stressing themselves out, and I say it so calmly and reasonably that it 'brings them to their senses' in no time at all. Heck, even if someone attacks me (so long as he doesn't draw a weapon) I respond as gently as I possibly can.

You know the saying 'With great power comes great responsibility..' well, I also think that sometimes, if your training is just right, with great power comes great patience, great kindness and understanding, and ultimate personal control.
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post Mar 21 2007, 07:00 PM
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i love to mediate, i do it constantly. I always make sure that i just let my thoughts flow, and that i don't try to manipulate them.

I just let it flow....it's quite interesting to whatch your thoughts from a removed viewpoint, it's almost like i am another person, just listening to their thoughts.

i do sit down to mediatate quite often, and it's v beneficial. it puts you in touch with yourself, and makes you focus on your thoughts. That's where your focus should be 100% of the time, anyway.
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post Mar 21 2007, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(Yratorm, LightMage @ Feb 18 2007, 01:15 PM) *
I used to meditate a lot, but real patience didn't come to me until I grew exceedingly powerful in the course of my martial arts studies. Once I achieved great personal power I found that even someone yelling in my face didn't faze me.

So while meditation is a wonderful path to mental and spiritual growth, it's not the only path, indeed.
These days if someone yells in my face I smile and tell them that they're only stressing themselves out, and I say it so calmly and reasonably that it 'brings them to their senses' in no time at all. Heck, even if someone attacks me (so long as he doesn't draw a weapon) I respond as gently as I possibly can.

You know the saying 'With great power comes great responsibility..' well, I also think that sometimes, if your training is just right, with great power comes great patience, great kindness and understanding, and ultimate personal control.


Nicely put. I do agree with you, but i have more trouble honestly with someone yelling in my face, or attacking me. i sometimes loose it, but i feel more sad, actually, that we all can't just live in peace. I have this mechanism that allows me to respond with cold, chilling indifference to someone who might come at me. i will just respond, sometimes brutally, without feeling any remorse whatsoever to someone who offends me. then i just go on with my life. i just don't play games like, you know?
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post Mar 21 2007, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE(kraizii8z @ Mar 21 2007, 07:06 PM) *
Nicely put. I do agree with you, but i have more trouble honestly with someone yelling in my face, or attacking me. i sometimes loose it, but i feel more sad, actually, that we all can't just live in peace. I have this mechanism that allows me to respond with cold, chilling indifference to someone who might come at me. i will just respond, sometimes brutally, without feeling any remorse whatsoever to someone who offends me. then i just go on with my life. i just don't play games like, you know?


I agree completely. It's a pity that people can't live in peace. Basically, I feel that most of us have some mechanism or the other to deal with hostility, mechanisms that we've developed based on what works for us. And I think it's all right to respond to aggression in kind sometimes. There's no general rule, I think - each situation has a different 'optimal' response.

Generally what I do is look at the threat value of the person - a person yelling in your face is different from someone threatening you with his fist, for example; and then I respond accordingly.


Now, speaking of meditation, generally I find that meditation helps one to step back and look at a situation 'in perspective'. For those unused to meditating, I'd say try some simple, easy meditations before going on to more complex kinds. Meditation is a lot like exercise, you can't build up your ability to focus in a day - it takes time, patience and practice.
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post Aug 29 2007, 09:44 PM
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Hi,

During meditation your mind is not unconscious it's superconscious. In this respect it's totally different from sleep. Benefits of meditation are great and fast. I did do meditation daily when I was unmarried for one year, after I got married didn't get time to do so though I'm planning to start it again.

Meditation helps balancing one's mind. Yoga balances the body. From ancient times in India Gurus advised to do both Yoga and meditation to balance both mind and body. Once you start Yoga your meditation experiences will strengthen and you will find more correlation with nature.

Bliss..
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post Aug 31 2007, 04:39 AM
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I first learned to meditate using a book on tape. At the time, I also was training to run a marathon. Later I joined a group of zen buddhists who were more impressed with my marathon training than with my self taught meditation.
They were impressed with the discipline.
This is the thread I see running through this thread. Everyone finds their own discipline - be it martial arts or regular attendance on a forum.
I like to think that particular kinds of meditation are suited for particular kinds of people.
In my work as a therapist, I saw people who had been traumatized. They couldn't do relaxation meditation because it brought them back to the point at which they were abused. Instead, I recommended to them focusing meditation, which can be done with eyes open, and which trains the mind to stay in a specific course. It worked for many of the clients to whom I recommended it.
I went to a conference and bought a computer run meditation program. It combined biofeedback with meditation. I enjoyed it a great deal, but it was too much technology for me and I couldn't really incorporate it into a regular practice. But it was a lot of fun...
My current meditation practice is best described as undisciplined. I have a lot on my plate at the moment. But I hope and expect to redevelop a regular practice.
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post Aug 31 2007, 05:03 AM
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When I was depressed my therapist suggested it. But it doesn't really work usually because for me I was never thinking about it I was just pretending to while I was thinking about killing someone.

I think it is all mental not anything that meditation actually does.
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post Oct 1 2007, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(Webber @ Sep 11 2006, 03:49 PM) *
Hey there,
well, this is something that is often overlooked as being something that doesn't work. Similiar to the martial arts, unless you've tried it you tend to be sceptical, and you can not describe how it feels unless you have actually taken part in it.

Well, over the past year I have been incredibly stressed ,and the past 7/10 weeks have been the worse. My parents have seperated in a really nasty divorce, my final exam year has just started at school, I have personal relationship issues and desires (I'm 15 by the way),I have a job that is very time consuming and I train in 6 martial arts, so I have had very little time to my self, and over the last couple of weeks it's really overwelmed me. I was getting to the end of my tether.. I was starting to become aggressive and started loosing it over very petty things, so this morning, before school (something I find incredibly dull, physically taiming and frustrating, I don't get on with many of my teachers, It isn't the nicest of schools, the sort of place you have to look after yourself, because the staff will not help out, and I haven't done aswell as I hoped in my previous years exams), so I decided to meditate before school. I used a 20 minute meditation technique I had picked up about a year and a half earlier. I found when I used it orginally it didn't really work, but perhaps I didn't really need it then? All I know is that the process does all the usual steps, the relaxation and the deep sensation, and the healing etc, and I really felt as if I went deeper than ever, and after it had finished, when I opened my eyes, I felt nearly paraylised in the bliss sensation of being totally relaxed, it was so beauitful, and all day I have been so gentle, patient and calm. Nothing has overwelmed me, annoyed me to a great exstent, made me act immature, made me 'fly off the feeling' and so on. In short - it worked perfectly. I can't describe the process of meditation, the perfect relaxtion you feel as you hit your centre.. I can't describe it, but I was wondering if anyone had any ideas as to what happens, either physically, mentally or spirtually. Has anyone else ever had this sort of experience, or does anybody else meditate regulary?

Thanks, Sean.

Meditation? ok well in my own point of view i would like to know your religeon because it some times matters but to me before one can meditate you must be relaxed and not in a noisy place, here Goes
if you are still attending some classes make sure you will pay urgent attention, allow the lecture to sink in
then when you reach home try to revise what you are being taught then think about it, its implications, importances, how to and other aspect of the related subjects, then finally off you Go! you are meditating, but if that dosen work out then relaxed try
have a shower after all try to ask yourself some reasonable questions think about it. thats meditation for me but if you have another way better for you but for me thats how i meditates
thank you rolleyes.gif
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