Just to clear this up OK (because there seems to bit a little bit of confusion) The PlayStation 3 will definately inlcuded the built in abiltity to play Blu Ray discs (both games and movies). While I do have to say that 50GB for a disc is impressive (and in most catagories the Blu Ray is superior to the HDDVD, data transfer which is perhaps the second most important factor after capacity is included in this superiority over HDDVD) and at least for the PlayStation 3 Blu Rays will have to survive otherwise as it is the main medium for games on that system (its the main reason for the November dealay).

However it is important to look at both sides of the argument, Blu Rays are undoubtably technically superior, however due to their main developer being Sony, the Blu Ray is built around DRM and as such Blu Ray players are alot more restrictive as to what can be played on them than HDDVD, and when taking in to account the price differences and delays in getting the Blu Ray format up and running this Blu Ray - HDDVD format war may not be won on technical merits.

P.S. I forgot to mention this (probably the most important part of this post) my prefered next gen disc format is currently Blu Ray as the technical benefits outweigh the DRM restrictions, and price of standalone players and delays to the finalising of the specs of the disc.

idk, i dont think blu ray is in the near future.