That's always been my problem with MLM--I hate recruiting and most kinds of marketing. I did find one the other day that says they'll do all that for you. It's called UP--Unlimited something--can't remember what exactly, but if you throw $15 a month at them, they'll take care of your downline and marketing. That one sounds pretty good to me. As soon as I make some money in autosurf, I think I'll try that one or something like it where I don't have to drag everybody I know kicking and screaming into the programs.

well if your the smart investor like me i invested 9k into cds i making some money but not much might go into stocks maybe.

Absolutely. I used to have money, , and had several stock market accounts online. It was wonderful. If I could get back to that level I would never surf for pennies again.

My sincere apologies to Round and anyone else I may have offended with this topic. Please let me explain:

1) I am NOT fishing for hosting credits. I have all I need and will probably let my Trap17 site go, anyway--it's a forum site and nobody posts there.

2) I have never spammed anybody in my life and never will. I am not selling anything or promoting anything on this forum.

3) My motivation for starting this topic was born of excitement, because I now believe I can do it. I wanted to share my enthusiasm. If I can do it, YOU can do it.

This enthusiasm comes from 2 people I met online. One of them makes almost $10,000 a month, mostly on autosurf programs. The other makes even more, and he won't touch autosurfs. He does it through various online marketing schemes.

These 2 people are for real. How do they do it? They spend their time researching and acting on opportunities that are available to all of us. They hang out on serious money-making forums and brainstorm with other serious entrepreneurs. They reinvest their profits in a broad range of programs. I'm sorry I can't tell you more--they aren't giving away their secrets.

4) Why don't I shut up and get a real job? This IS my real job. I'm a writer. This is what I do and how I make my living. I have just discovered several forums that will actually pay me to post. When I get paid, I will reinvest that money in something risky with a high return. If I get lucky there, I will reinvest that money in something safer. If I lose it, I'll try again. The most important thing I learned from Rudy Corey is to keep at it. Learn from mistakes and don't give up. He became a multi-millionaire online, so add him to my inspiration/motivation list.

5) Why don't I list specific programs and sites? That WOULD be spamming. Also, I think we all need to find our own way in this world. What works for me might not work for you. Also, if something DOESN'T work for me, and I get you into it, we both lose and then I'd feel guilty.

Now I'll shut up and go away.

I think some people are making money online. I do not think that auto surf and pay to read e mail is how they are doing it. I think it is thru google adsense, affiliate programs, amazon associates, ebay sales, and the sale of their own product.

For whatever reason, the get rich quick scams seems to have flourished on the internet. The ones mentioned above...pay 1o dollars, get 50,000 to do the same, repeat. So, I think when attempting to make money on the internet, be wary of scams.

I had also joined some advertising programs with pop ups and pop unders. They pay a tiny amount per impression, so you need a lot of traffic. The problem was, I don't have a huge amount of traffic. Histology is a very esoteric field, so the maximum possible audience for a histology site is pretty small. Anyway, some of these advertising companies had such a large threshhold for payout, that the company disappeared before they ever did there first payout to me.

At least with Google, it is highly reputable, so I don't think that will happen.

Sunkist

I agree. Google, eBay, and Amazon are my foundation programs. They're honest and steady.