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> War, Who would win in a war, China or the United States?
HoRuS
post Jun 8 2005, 04:39 PM
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Well said...
We have to share the same planet all together,
the last thing we need is another war to worry about.
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post Jun 9 2005, 10:54 AM
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Just the fact that someone actualy thinks about war, makes me sad.. I live in a country that was torn with many wars, and the last of them, thanks to the us. So, you can guess how I feel about the us (us government, not the people). Why would anyone think about war? I can bet, that poster of this post, never experienced war, and thinks how it must be cool to wage a war. I appologize if I have mistaken, but understand how I feel. I had to live in fear, every day, will a bomb fall somewhere, and kill me, or even worse, kill someone I love.

Everyone in the world knows how us wages their wars. First, they decide that they don't like certain country anymore, because that countrys government refused to to things the us way. Next, they will make up things, or take existing things, and exagerate them severely. Next step is turning as much of the world possible, against that country, convincing them that their government is evil, and has it's own people in slavery. Since us government ensured they have all the evidence they need, next phase can begin.. Blackmailing the government of that country: either you will let us come in, or we destroy you. Any country stupid enough to stand up to them, will be bombed and attacked. Then, since every country will defend itself, and the people WILL stand united against the aggressor (because, no matter what people believe, us IS the aggressor, always), the war begins..

Americans learned their lesson in Vietnam.. If bodies begin to return in us, in bags, people start asking questions.. Why do we fight there? What's the point? So, us has new tactic.. Use airplaines to break the resistance as much as possible, and then, and only then, as a last resort, land invasion begins.. But, us will not send nearly the same number of soldiers, as other countries participating in the conflict.. Us learned their lesson, as I said.. Brittish, always willing to suck up to us, will be the first to join in, followed by other, smaller countries, recently admited to NATO, not because they want, but because they have to.. I don't think that can count as us vs. anyone. Us will enter, after all the killing is done, claiming how they liberated the people from the fascist regime in that country, and blah blah.. We all heard that story many times.

But the fact stays, us government is fascist. Fascist doesn't mean rasist or something like that.. Look it up, and see what fascist means. Us doesn't care about the people, they care about the money. Nothing else.

And, you should always count on moral. People defending their homes against invading force, have much more moral, and will to fight, than some poor soldier, who didn't even want to be there in the first place, and doesn't know where he is.. And since China isn't crazy to start a war with the us, we can only say that us would start it. And then, will and moral will be on Chinas side. In that conflict, Chinacould count on Japan's support. We all know that us was the only country stupid enough to use their nuclear weapons. Japan is just waiting to get even, I'm sure of it. China could also count on Russia, and several other countries that "hate" us.. So, whoever said it would end up being WWIII, is entirely correct..

And have respect for people from China.. How do you think they feel now? The world hates us (the government, not the people; there are all kinds of people, in every country), and the fact someone mentioned, that most Chinese would be on the us side.. Very wrong.. Would you go to the aggressor if they attacked your home? I don't think so.. Until you have experienced the pain, anger and suffering of the war, you have no right to speak about war..

I am sorry if this post is harsh and cruel, but I lived trough 72 days of constant bombing, several times a day, so please understand me... I hate war, and I never again want to experience it again, either near me, or anywhere in the world..
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post Jun 9 2005, 11:49 AM
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I have the sam view on things as Kitty. Then again, I come from the same country, and I lived trough the same hell as she did, so I guess it makes sense we think the same way... As long as people think about war, that option remains open... And the fact that US has nuclear missiles is not something to be proud of... If they demand that other conutries destroy their nuclear weapons, why should US be excluded? Just because they are so nice, and love the entire world? If they were the only ones with that kind of power, what would stop them from enslaving the entire world? They do it already...

And I don't apologize if I'm harsh... I think US has to be put in their place... They didn't exsist 500 years ago, and they don't have the right to police the world, and stuff their nose in other peoples business... I once actualy liked US, but ever since they came, and bombed me, just because THEIR man didn't listen to their orders anymore, I started hating US. Well, not actualy hating, I have better things to do than spend my feelings on such thing and country, just... I don't like them anymore... I didn't like the way things were in my country, but when US came, all differences were set asside, and all resources targeted against the US, and that's the thing you can't rule out in war: people defending their own homes, often defeated invading armies... Kitty mentioned Vietnam... US was destroyed in Vietnam, despite what they say now...

So, in conclusion, people should stop thinking about war, otherwise... We could all be dead very soon...
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post Jun 9 2005, 03:18 PM
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the best answer would be: none of them would win.

1. USA does not have the capacity to occupy china
2. China does not have the capacity to occupy the united states
3. Both have very sofitocated armies and weapons (not to mention nuclear weapons)
4. Both sides have very different ideologies and socities that are also very proud meaning that they would not surrender to each other
5. we have something called the Un where people go before they respove wars and search for compromise.
6. the only reason why they might go to war is over taiwan, which is an issue that will be resolved.


War is not a good thing, and it is dumb to speculate about it. Even though it is fun..
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post Dec 9 2007, 02:56 AM
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We already fought against China during the Korean war and drove them out of NK while being out numbered 12 to one. The Chinese military even had air support from Russia and failed.

It was all down to fire power. In the mid 1980's China massed troops in hopes of an attempt to regain tiwan. The US sent two carrier groups to Tiwan as a show of force and the Chinese backed down.

They remembered the 500,000 dead from the NK war as apposed to the entire un loosing 50k or less. I served in the Marine corps and the army. Our military is the most advanced in the world. We have the ability to meet and deal with any threat home and abroad.

In Iraq we are doing a great job I served two tours there, considering it is only 25% of our military s combat capacity serving in the middle east.

I don't see a war between US and China, the more they do business with us the more they are becoming Americanized. We are the largest source of income for China and export lots of there food source to them.

Our country really feeds the world. Going to war with us means they don't eat, don't make money, and die. Not a good option. (for them that is).

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post Jan 18 2008, 07:58 PM
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China is supposed to take the lead in the world economy in 2018 and they do have well trained troops and there weapons are more advance then ours I think it all depends on how we would fight the war that determines who wins technology and manpower doesn't win war strategy does

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post Jan 20 2008, 12:35 AM
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Every side loses in war, it's just a matter of which side loses the least, that's victory in war. In all truth, I think China could win. It's not just a simple matter of who has the bigger guns, or who has more people. China trades a lot, a LOT, with the United States, and the United States economy would suffer a lot from it. The same could be said for China though, because the prices for everything would fall as the previously export items flood the market. Then again, China with its' government could simply order the companies to close, something the US can't do.

It's way too troublesome to even get into the first layer of what a war between China and the US would be like, but in the end it would be horrendous. I wouldn't doubt it if allies of both sides were drawn in.
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post Jan 20 2008, 03:32 AM
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I dont think neither would win, they would probably destroy each other for a while then end up signing a peace treaty or something, it would have to be a really huge war involving many allies, and I think that in this situation the United States would most probably win, but it would cost the country a lot.
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