My wife got on my case this morning about my leaving the toilet seat lid up during the night when I got up to take a whiz. Apparently she almost took the plunge when she went in there in the dark and took a seat.

My response to her was that she never lifts the lid for me after she's done, so why do I need to put the lid down when I'm finished. Why can't everyone just look out for themselves when it comes to peeing? Is this too much too ask? Do women not want equal rights in the toilet area?

i always get the complaint that "I almost fell in" or "I sat on the bare toilet". My response is always, "check before you sit down then!!" I mean seriously, I have NEVER sat down on the toilet unless the seat was down.. it is pretty obvious that one should check before sitting down... I just can't understand it.

it is a double standard. women still want men to be the "gentlemen", open doors, pay for dinner, etc... they want to keep all the good things they had when it was "unequal" and take only the good things of equality. Sorry to say this, but if women want equality, they have to take the good AND the bad.

My response to that would be that the bottomside of the toilet seat is kind of grungier than the top side, and also, my brothers never put it down or clean it. It's usually my mom or myself. It's not that you're about to fall in or anything, it's probably just the sanitary part of it. We women just like it down!

I don't think its very nice to come along and have to pull down the toilet seat, why the need to put it up anyway? You can still pee with it down.

It's use blokes who should be complaining, I mean, it's only 1 down for women and two up for us guys.

Why not keep it down and pee in it? Because then it could possibly get peed on. I bet most women would throw a huge fit over that. I always check before I sit down, women should too. Or they should put the toilet seat up after they get done, that's equal to us putting it down.

i don't like it when boys don't put the toilet seat back down i never say anything about it to my guy friends but i do almost fall in!

i guess id rather have someone leave the toilet seat up then pee all over the seat ew!! i wouldn't like cleaning that off AT ALL. i'd def say something then... nevermind say something, id probably explode that'd be so nasty lol!! no one wants to sit in pee

Absolutely correct, well said!

no9t9, you have really made one of the best statements by a man on women's rights I have ever seen. Something like this has always been there in my mind, but it was never expressed this explicitly!

Thank you
Googlue

I concur. (I agree)

I hear about the toilet seat from women more often than almost any other complaint (excepting the ever-famous "WHERE WERE YOU LAST NIGHT?") I understand why a woman would look at the situation from her standpoint, but we should still get our rights to the toilet.. lol. Keep the seat down, leave it up, it's all the same to me, but obviously, it's something special to your female counterpart.

Panda

Oh please don't tell me you're turning toilet seats into an equal rights issue! If you want to get on a soap box about "double standards," bathroom problems aren't exactly material for a cogent argument. (Unless it's just a facetious suggestion, which I hope it is.) If you want to talk double standards, let's go with glass ceilings in the workplace, for example. There aren't a whole lot of gentlemenly 'perks' women receive as it is - postmodernism has killed chivalry. So holding doors, paying for dinner, toilet seats... what else might "gentlemen" do for their ladies that isn't too much work? Oh, but right, the equality thing... we have to treat females equally. If it's going to come down to a gender-related rights issue, I for one will pay for dinner myself and open my own doors. But I would hope, out of the respect we have for each other, that my significant other wouldn't feel it was an issue of "rights" or equality, but that we would just do things for the other because we love each other.