I do not believe in astrology. Never did, never will. Astrology for me is a fiction invented by men looking for easy money, especially in third world countries. Astrology is so unscientific and baseless, and if i had time, I'd always encourage everyone I know not to waste their time in such useless activity.

*Claps*

Your completely correct. It has nothing to base it's so called "facts" on. When you check what your star signs is ment to experience today, it's always something vague. For example, "You will encounter a problem in your life...". Of course I bloody will, every person alive has encountered a problem. Astrology is dumb and quite frankly, should get banned.

Yeah I tend not to beiieve this kind of thing. I see the adds on tv telling me to call them up and find out about things for only 5 dollars a min lol yeah right. I'm not that gullible but you would be amazed how many people actually believe in this and do call. They must make alot of money since there are so many people in this world who do believe in these kind of things. Whats even more crazy is there are people who are buying land on the moon for real money beleiveing they own it now lol.

My reply to a statement like this is something like;
"What do you believe in?"

IMHO, this shows in the least a myopic view of objective reality.
At worst it's simple anthropomorphic arrogance.

Let's give our ancestors, and this subject, the respect they deserve.

Don't think that statement is true?

Look up the latest info on Stonehenge.
It matches the Solstices and Equinoxs with their Lunar Months.
This is because at the time the Neolithic revolution was going on and mankind was shifting from a hunting/nomadic social model to a sedient/agracultural method.
Laugh at the stars if you will but I live in the Pacific Northwest in the U.S. and the Elk follow the Moon.
Of course if I stop hunting and start growing crops, the frist day of Spring becomes a bit more important to me.

Still so smug?

Then consider this.
The average life span of a Neolithic farmer was probably no longer than the mid-twenties.
So those ancient monuments were built by what todays socity considers children.

I'll end this with a bit from a great comic writer (among many other things) named Tom Weller;

So, having 6 steps instead of 5, deductive logic is better than inductive.
Quid pro you go, you go.


Talk to me when I can feal it,please.
Hit me when I can understand.

Maou





This post has been edited by Maou_Tsaou: Dec 19 2007, 08:01 PM

The way I see it, astrology is basically just something to look forward to. It may warn you about struggles that you may encounter but you encounter struggles everyday, astrology just emphasizes this and makes you look for them more because it is on your mind sub-consciously and you become obsessed with it. As for fortune telling and what not, that is all also a joke in my opinion. Before they tell your future, they most likely ask you a few questions about how life is going and what you have been doing, this gives them information to base their foretelling of and they then make a general forecast that is most likely to occur. Then the same process for astrology in which people subconsciously look for it to happen.

I think they are referring to the zodiac signs and things like the horoscope, where they tell you that x planet is aligned with x and because of that your lucky numer is # and you are going to have a good day today... bla bla bla.

Astrology is obviously really important, it has been very important throughout the evolution of mankind, but the horoscope and things like that well, I dont know, it is really vague

Jung called the process in which people subconsciously look for something to happen that they've recently become aware of Syncronicity.

Now as far as the planets posistions determining our destinies, my point is not that this is the correct belief but rather that the two concepts of planetary possision and the posistion of the planets at the time of ones birth determining an individuals destiny were obviously intermixed to begin with.
It was only much later that these concepts became sorted out.

Kepler, a truly underlooked individual in the History of Science IMHO, died from an illness contracted by walking a long distance to collect a debt owed for a horoscope drawn up for a nobleman if I recall properly.

He didn't get paid.

Einstine said that it had always pained him to know how shabbaly Galaleo treated Kepler.

The man who made one of the most profound mathmatical discoveries ever concieved practiced Astrology.

Newton got his clutzy Calculas from Kepler.



I try to imagine pre-neolithic culture which was pretty stable for tens of thousands of years before the "Revolution".
Have you ever seen "The Gods Must Be Crazy?"
It is important to know the seasons.
The easiest way is to check the sky.

The shortest day of the year occurs during the coldest time of year.
6 moons later comes a day with 12hrs day and 12hrs night.

What would the tribe think of these times of year?
Would that affect the way they view children born on these days?

Again not that we should believe that way, but don't you think that some of the "silly" parts may actually have quite a bit to tell us about ancestors who could leave no other records?






Maou

are you aware that politicians in Third world countries, especially India, rely on astrology and forecasts to determine their electoral votes? they worship godmen and seek their blessings so they could win elections. It's kind of funny but sad at the same time. A country with nuclear power still relying on horoscopes and astrology. hope those war heads don't fall into the wrong hands...