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> Suicide/emo, I Am Strongly Against
demonatashadow
post May 21 2007, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE(dwayne12 @ May 9 2007, 08:37 AM) *
Oh man I can see I'm going to get worked up on this subject ok relax...

Firstly it sickens me when people say emo's cut themselves etc, you're just basing your post on stereotypes. Firstly I don't agree with stereotypes and you are here saying why would emo's want to take their lives away and stuff. In case you didn't know emo is not a style it is actually a genre of music you obviously don't know what emo means if all you can come up with is "people who cut themselves and are depressed". People have been wearing black for years and if I recall what did people who wore black a few years back in the early 90's/80's get called? Gothics didn't they?

Lots of people take their own lives "demonatashadow" that doesn't make them emo, or according to you it does. The post you have just made is enough to offend a lot of people it has offended me actually you managed to mention religion and stereotypes in the same post congratulations on posting something offensive and basically admitting that it's offensive by inviting people to complain and post something offensive back to you. Are you trying to provoke a 2 sided debate?

I suggest you do a google search if you want the real definition of emo "demonatashadow"


1. I know that emo and people wanting to commit suicide are different, I'm not an idiot. If someone wants to commit suicide then I think of them as, or if I were to classify them, it would be Suicidal, not emo, I'm not a dummy, even though you're probaby thinking that.
2. Look it up in the dictionary, Emo is, yes a genre of music, and also people who cut themselves. Yes that is a definition of Emo, don't argue because its pointless. If you are still in school then go ask you're councelor and he/she will most-likely say Emo is people who cut themselves.
3. I've talked to someone who is emo before, yes they do cut themselves to relive stress. Thats what emo is, most of the time anyways.
4. Emo people don't have to where black to be Emo, if you're depressed and hate the world and all that nonsence and wear all black, then you would be called, G-O-T-H, not Emo.
5.Emo is not a style or something, it is the process of relieving stress by cutting themselves.
6.If you want to actually fase my opinion I suggest you go to dictionary.com look it up and post a link on you're next post, if you don't come up with some official proof, not a site made by some guy I could care less about, then it would really be pointless to make another post in this topic.

P.S. i'm not a racist to race or religion or color, I just don't like this emo/suicidal stuff.
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post May 21 2007, 11:07 PM
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I think suicide is a right. It's not a right that should be exercised often (obviously, the maximum is once), but it's your life you can do whatever you want with it, including end it. A lot of people who commit suicide probably didn't consider it as carefully as they should have though.
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post May 21 2007, 11:33 PM
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QUOTE(demonatashadow @ May 21 2007, 02:59 PM) *
P.S. i'm not a racist to race or religion or color, I just don't like this emo/suicidal stuff.


You say that about a lot of stuff, you basically hate everything but religions and colours of peoples skin.

First off all, people who commit suicide- most of them are not in a healthy state of mind when they do it. Unless you've ever been in the state where you actually seriously thought about suicide, i think its very unfair to jump to conclusions and form beliefs. You've obviously never felt what its like to not want to live anymore, and yes theres the whole 'if you try you can get over it' but sometimes people do try, and they can't get over it but yeah some people don't try, because it seems easier to just kill themself, and i've been in both situations. I mean I don't want to die, i love being alive, but sometimes the bad out weighs the good in life, and i feel like if i'm dead, it'll just be better because i never have to hurt again.

Emo and suicide have nothing in common, just as cutting and suicide are not the same. People don't cut because they want to die, some cut because they don't want to die and it relieves the stress momentarily enough to realize they still hurt physically not just emotionally. Others cut for attention (i'll fully admit that many poser emo kids cut because they think it is cool.) And some cut, because they like the pain and like to bleed. Emo is a kind of music, yes...it's also a form of wardobe and a state of feeling... but not all emo kids are cutters. And many emo kids, are pretty awesome people if you meet the real ones. Emo is pretty young, Its funny because in junior high i was called punk and gothic, and then all of a sudden sophomore year i was called emo, despite the fact that i didn't change the way i acted or how i dressed... but i'm not emo, or punk or gothic... yeah i used to cut, i've cut since junior high long before emo was fully established, and when i did it no one else did, so it has nothing to do with how i dress, what i listen to, it just matters how you handle stress. I am a self mutilator when i get stressed, and its taken me a long time to control it, but i'd still be one if i was more 'prep' or 'jock' or 'band geek'... labels are stupid and so are stereotypes.
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post May 24 2007, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(JasperIk @ May 21 2007, 11:33 PM) *
You say that about a lot of stuff, you basically hate everything but religions and colours of peoples skin.

First off all, people who commit suicide- most of them are not in a healthy state of mind when they do it. Unless you've ever been in the state where you actually seriously thought about suicide, i think its very unfair to jump to conclusions and form beliefs. You've obviously never felt what its like to not want to live anymore, and yes theres the whole 'if you try you can get over it' but sometimes people do try, and they can't get over it but yeah some people don't try, because it seems easier to just kill themself, and i've been in both situations. I mean I don't want to die, i love being alive, but sometimes the bad out weighs the good in life, and i feel like if i'm dead, it'll just be better because i never have to hurt again.

Emo and suicide have nothing in common, just as cutting and suicide are not the same. People don't cut because they want to die, some cut because they don't want to die and it relieves the stress momentarily enough to realize they still hurt physically not just emotionally. Others cut for attention (i'll fully admit that many poser emo kids cut because they think it is cool.) And some cut, because they like the pain and like to bleed. Emo is a kind of music, yes...it's also a form of wardobe and a state of feeling... but not all emo kids are cutters. And many emo kids, are pretty awesome people if you meet the real ones. Emo is pretty young, Its funny because in junior high i was called punk and gothic, and then all of a sudden sophomore year i was called emo, despite the fact that i didn't change the way i acted or how i dressed... but i'm not emo, or punk or gothic... yeah i used to cut, i've cut since junior high long before emo was fully established, and when i did it no one else did, so it has nothing to do with how i dress, what i listen to, it just matters how you handle stress. I am a self mutilator when i get stressed, and its taken me a long time to control it, but i'd still be one if i was more 'prep' or 'jock' or 'band geek'... labels are stupid and so are stereotypes.


Thats where you're wrong, I have been in that state of mind. And then I took a good hard look in the mirror and said, "What the hell is wrong with you", I sucked all that B.S. in and went back to normal dude. Its not that difficult to do, just think happy wise. Thats why I hate the whole emo/suicidal stuff, because it feels all wrong.

P.S. I say that a lot because I am strongly against Racism, so I don't want to appear like one
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post May 25 2007, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(demonatashadow @ May 24 2007, 07:34 AM) *
Thats where you're wrong, I have been in that state of mind. And then I took a good hard look in the mirror and said, "What the hell is wrong with you", I sucked all that B.S. in and went back to normal dude. Its not that difficult to do, just think happy wise. Thats why I hate the whole emo/suicidal stuff, because it feels all wrong.

P.S. I say that a lot because I am strongly against Racism, so I don't want to appear like one


What does racism have to do with Suicide and being emo anyway?

If you can snap back so fast, then you really weren't in the state that i was referring to. I can easily pretend to be happy, in fact i am really never happy, but i can pretend to be happy, and i can convince myself to not kill myself, but that doesn't mean i am actually okay and over it.
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post May 25 2007, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE(demonatashadow @ May 24 2007, 10:34 AM) *
Thats where you're wrong, I have been in that state of mind. And then I took a good hard look in the mirror and said, "What the hell is wrong with you", I sucked all that B.S. in and went back to normal dude. Its not that difficult to do, just think happy wise. Thats why I hate the whole emo/suicidal stuff, because it feels all wrong.

Likewise with what Jasper said: You can not just "snap" yourself out of it—it requires a long period of time to even start getting better. If one recalls what is making them sad or unstable, it may take "forever" just to even consider that there's a life to live, to put to good use.

As for the title of this topic: You can't be strongly against "emo"—such is not only illogical, but also impossible. It's not an action like suicide is; it's an effect due to a cause. It's not something you can strap a person down from doing and telling them, "Don't be 'emo!'" or "Stop being an 'emo!'"—not that i'm promoting or suggesting that one should strap people down to prevent them from doing something. I of course (obiviously) am against suicide—now this is something you can be against. You may not be able to be against 'emo,' but you can most certainly be against the things that causes one to be 'emo.' Indeed, the best way to prevent such things is to put an end to the things that causes it in the first place (this of course may be impossible on a large scale).

Suicide may be considered the apparent and quickest way to deal with immense pain (at the time), but the pain is blinding and misleading. The thing that causes such pain is usually due to the fact that they've lost at least two things: hope and love. If one is capale of inducing such things in the person's life, they should be able to relinquish the pain and see the light from the darkness that they're in. Many have been able to obtain these things through religion (Christianity; from God through Christ). Suicide also causes regret, sorrow and pain in the family's lives—one of the main reasons why suicide is wrong.

You may claim that you have gone through such emotional state, but the fact still remains: it was not to the degree or intensity that others have gone through or are still going through, or that you didn't even go through what you thought you went through, for they would have been able to "snap out of it" just like you have. And telling them to "snap out of it" just doesn't work.
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post May 26 2007, 12:01 AM
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This may be off topic but I wonder who was the brainchild of this? Did he die in the same way, takin a knife and poking at himself?
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post Dec 8 2007, 02:22 AM
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QUOTE(demonatashadow @ May 8 2007, 10:34 PM) *
What I don't get is why would people want to commit suicide or be emo?? Why would anyone want to take their own life away. Most people say, oh they teased me, bla, bla, bla. I say the hell with that!! Its pointless to take your life away. I believe that if you commit suicide then you go to hell anyways.

Also whats up with the emo *BLEEP*!! You got stress go excersize. I just don't see how pain (emo's cut themselves, what the hells with that) can possible relieve stress. I would think that pain only adds stress. I suggest to the emo people go outside and play to relieve stress. If you want to complain or post something offensive here, go ahead it doesn't change my opinion in the least.



i agree wih whoever posted this =) sorry im new and dont know how to just reply! haha well yea. i think suicide is stupid, i mean why in earth would you give people the pleasure to see you give up? i mean if u do give up, ur not hurting anyone but urself.. sure if it was their fault, theyl;l feel bad for a week or 2.. and then thats it.. u ended ur life, no one cares, you screwed yourself over,....

and if u do find the need to end urself.. just listen to some good music.. let that carry you until something good comes along// dont excpect someone to come in and be like OH THIS PERSON HAS Suffored big time, im a make their life so much better, i will love them and solve their future.. that wont happen! ITS ALL ABOUT MAKING UR OWN GAD DAMN IT HAPPINESS! go out there and chase it.. life is not about finding urself.. its about CREATING URSELF! dont just end ur life.. ur alive for a reason..

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