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> Movie Editing Softwere, wich one to use?
wassie
post Aug 16 2005, 05:49 PM
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i really wanna know wich software the makers of like Lord of the Rings, are using to make their special effects? I know one thats called "Adobe after effects" but i dont think they use that for LOTR.
So what is?
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post Aug 16 2005, 06:41 PM
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http://www.astahost.com/adobe-premiere-pro...ctio-t2009.html

this might help a little
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post Aug 16 2005, 07:03 PM
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well i didn't know they were doing that all with adobe premiere...
hmm... well i have to read some tutorials about it then smile.gif
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post Aug 16 2005, 09:28 PM
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I would have no authority on the subject so this is just a guess, but a 3d program like Maya, or 3d max. A 2d Program like Photoshop, for creating textures, these programs would be used for creating movie sequences that would later be spliced into the video using something like a green screen effect, also known as chroma key.

Now this is one thing I do know, some of the scenes were built entirly using the computer, for example when there are thousands of orcs attacking on of the places (I can't remember the name now) those scenes were entirly generated, no filming!

Appentrly now this information is just coming from my memory, so it isn't necessarly to accureat, there was a software developer comissioned to do there scenes so unlike traditional computer dessign where each orc (I hope I spell that right) was created by hand and then animated by hand navigating around every other orc by hand, this process you can imagin would take years, even decades!!! this developer (I believe he was from canada) would create, assumably along with a team of artists, a handful of monsters, say 10, then program them so they could walk on there own, kina like in a video game, and clone them over and over again so you have thousands, (Imagine the processor time and RAM) then say "run towards the castle", now in traditional dessign this would all be possable but the guyes in the front would head off and the ones in back would go and because you are using several diffrent models they would travel slightly diffrent speeds, and end up cutting throught each other (which would be bad ohmy.gif ) so these bodies were then programed with a fuzzy logic so when they encountered a slow moving orc they could actualy think and decide for themselfs a way around the object in front without obscuring the video, or creating sharp polygons then a camera was placed in the 3d world from the side, and then again from the top and these sequences were spliced together to form the final product.

Now you asked about specific programs, my guess would be that you would never have heard of the program, like I said maya, and 3d max photoshop ect, but no single program would be used for the whole production, and many hardware utilities would also be used with editing stations, (I hope I didn't sould rude when I said you wouldn't know of the programs, what I ment was propriety software was probably also used) chances are also very good that a program used by a hollywood director might even be simpler to use then something like Pinnacle studio, why? Because Hollywood movies don't use effecs or built in sounds that consumers expect in there video editors, something very simple like the sequence editor in Blender, no effects, no sounds just an aduio track for background audio, and video tracks, for what else but video!!

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well i didn't know they were doing that all with adobe premiere...
hmm... well i have to read some tutorials about it then

If you were asking because you wanted to make something simmilar, you probably could do a lot with premier pro, never used it myself but hey it's got the pro in it's name and costs lots, must be good biggrin.gif , but serously start out small and learn more programs and eventulay you will have a set of tools and when you want to make something you say I can't do it here, and would be doing it by hand here, but maybe I can use this tool there. My self I don't do much video editing (for lack of a video camera!) but I do like to edit pictures, and use something in the range of 8 or nine programs to do so, just what I am most comfortable using for that pericular task.
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post Aug 16 2005, 10:07 PM
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Hi For edit Or put Effect on your movie User adobe premiere Software
I Use it and i like it
It has many options for Audio/ video
And u can compile your film in any format like Mpg2 or dat file or ....
its realy nice software
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post Aug 17 2005, 12:35 PM
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oke i know 3d max, still wanna learn that programm, and i exually got adobe premiere pro, but never used it that much, but i will learn that on school and it would be cool to allready know a bit of that.

so any of you can find some nice tutorials? because i just cant find them :@
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post Aug 17 2005, 01:10 PM
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I know www.3dbuzz.com was a good resource, though it's been a while since I was there.
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post Aug 17 2005, 04:58 PM
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this should prove useful for this topic **FRESH ARTICLE**:
http://www.downloadsquad.com/2005/08/16/ho...almost-nothing/

it discusses some very useful tips for the desired job at hand. ever heard of the giant in effects company, "Industrial Light & Magic", or more commonly known as "ILM"? you should see their looonng-list of filmography which they dipped their hands into doing the special effects. the most notable and most recognizable movie in the list is of course the star wars series. tongue.gif
http://www.ilm.com/ilm_services.html

well, this guy (from the first link above) says he can show you how to create your own ILM for (almost) nothing! for the next george lucas' out there, here's your chance to read and learn. tongue.gif all-basics are covered, like the recommended machines (he says get at least 3 boxes... you will know why when you read the blog entry tongue.gif). and of course, the list of cross-platform apps you be will needing for creating your masterpiece. smile.gif

report back on this thread what you come up with with all these stuff. tongue.gif
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post Sep 5 2005, 06:08 PM
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Blender 3D is a free open source program for creating film effects and that. I have not got it yet, but it can create some really impressive stuff. I have seen some graphics that were made in it.

Blender 3D started off as a commercial program that did not work out. Blender 3D is cross platform Windows, Linux, and Mac.

http://www.blender3d.org