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Norrad
post Feb 13 2007, 07:26 AM
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Buddhism is the major religion here in Thailand and I am exposed to it every day. I see Buddhist monks all over an I am very interested in their religion, I think it is beautiful.

I see meditation on TV and it seems very easy but I cannot sit down long enough to relax my thoughts. I am always thinking of my next move.

Does anyone have any tips on meditation?

I would love to join a temple here as a buddhist novice, but, alot of being a monk is meditation and I am affraid that I will never understand it.
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post Feb 13 2007, 10:37 AM
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It takes years of practice. Its really amazing how people do it and not every one is as patient as them. I cant even stay away a minute from my PC so thats out of the question of me sitting and relaxing. One advice I can give you is that go to Google its your best friend and will help you. Type meditation tips and you will get good results.
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post Feb 13 2007, 11:05 AM
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I couldnīt do it... Iīm so nervous, I canīt stop doing things. But I also think Buddhism is interesting and those monks are really special people. I donīt think it is difficult to find tips in your own country, if Buddhism is so popular but I agree, there must be lots of sites in google about this, because itīs a mistery how they achieve power by relaxing.
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post Feb 13 2007, 05:47 PM
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Relaxation Through Meditation

My preference would be to call meditation relaxation – conscious relaxation, chosen relaxation. These are words that are more universally understood, more comfortable. Constantly working toward the goal of discovering my own ability to reach a state of serenity, I have learned to meditate.

Meditating is actually easier than you might imagine. Most of us have dabbled in meditation by participating in conscious relaxation. Maybe during an exercise class or to manage pain at the dentist or anxiety before a test. We start by paying attention to our breathing. The practical effort to focus completely on our breathing takes our minds away from the "mind clutter" that constantly tries to invade our mind and eliminate feelings that will lead to a time of calm. With repeated effort the goal of clearing your mind – to think of nothing, does occur and the process of meditation takes on its own energy. The result is, and I guarantee this, peace, serenity, calmness, eventually opening yourself to new insights.

Meditating for Life

Too much stress, stress reduction, chill out, let it go, detach – familiar phrases to all of us. Our world is fast, fun and exciting. It is also challenging, trying, demanding and frightening. These two sides of our lives produce stress, emotional reactions, anxiety, worry and anticipation. Our bodies and minds can tolerate only so much of any of these. After a while, each of us reaches a saturation point and the results become uncomfortable at best; for some it may be unbearable, even unendurable.

No magic pill is available to eliminate these feelings. The reality is, as the wise old man said, the answer is inside all of us. To manage these universal concerns we must go inside ourselves. Among the steps we can take is the learning and practicing of meditation.

What to Expect

With time and faith in the commitment to practice frequently, (daily meditating is ideal), during your meditation time you may "leave the moment." A feeling of separation exists where the mind is clear, clean and blank. You will still hear sounds around you, but they will not interfere with your meditation.

Sometimes you may weep -- you may not even be aware of what is making you weep. It is your own emotions having a voice of their own. Sometimes you may feel a smile across your face -- that is contentment showing itself. Sometimes you may fall asleep and awaken truly refreshed.

There is no right or wrong behavior during your meditation. It is your time for you. Everyone deserves this kind of personal attention. This is a self-care activity; loving oneself! Teach it to your children instead of a time-out in their room or corner. Teach it to your friends, family, anyone who will listen. We can share this gift and get back as we give. We are all better because of each person who meditates. The peace and joy felt by those who meditate enters the world for all of us as positive energy. From it the world is a better place. Imagine if we all practiced meditation!

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post Feb 14 2007, 08:59 AM
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I think the problem with many people might be that , they keep on thinking that they should not think of anything ... And it is definitely hard to meditate when you are in that frame of mind .

Try to take each sound around you as a music and try to enjoy it , .. Slowly imagine you are turning down the volume around you as if you were having a remote controller,\. Imagine that, as you decrease the volume you get into deeper state of meditation. You are always in control of your senses here. I started meditating this way.

Another good way for people with distractions is to get an audiotape to help you in your meditation. Alan watts meditation tapes were great. You would google the word "meditation" and find few links where free audiotapes can be found. i think learnmeditation.com has some amazing ones.

I hope , you Have a peaceful meditation session hereafter !!!
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post Feb 16 2007, 12:36 AM
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Hmm, I understand why you would feel nervous about meditation, norrad. Incidentally, are you deeply religious? Because generally initiation into any order is a significant decision, and rarely to be taken lightly.

I study with a Ninjutsu Ryu in the east, and we engage in complex meditation for various reasons - to raise our consciousness, to improve our focus, to channel our energies and strengthen the will - for many more things than this, as well.

Meditations are not difficult if you have a good teacher. Generally one should start with simple meditations and slowly go on to more complex ones.

I've posted some simple 'layman's' meditations at this link:

Meditations to Calm the Mind and Improve Focus


I hope they are some help to you. I can post other, more complex meditations, but remember that my 'philosophy' is Ninjutsu, not Buddhism, so though it contains elements of Buddhism, it diverges into many other planes of thought and action.
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post Feb 16 2007, 12:43 PM
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well.. I would say meditating is un-explainable.. but as far as I know meditative is not about concentrating mind into something.. it's not "imagining" that we don't think about nothing.. but founding reality that undescribeable is what meditating is all about. Well don't take my words, but find your own truth.. like a friend said to me.. "there is one truth, but man describe it in his own ways"

but for pactice.. it would be good to try realize and find out what really happen around us, let me share u how smile.gif

1. find a place peace, silent (usually I was doin' it at midnight tongue.gif)

2. somehow, find a position wich u can relax (do not lying down.. youll go to sleep if u do) I prefer sitting.

3. in that relax position, start to watch your breathing.. your stomach movement, not with your eyes, just watch it in your mind don't say anything in your mind, just realize it and watch it. then close your eyes sleep.gif

4. while doing this, I presume some of you will see a lot of things.. well it's your thought.. follow it pasively.. don't resist it.. just realize what you were doing (you are following your tought), then slowly.. go back to watch your breathing.. (don't take a deep breath).. sometimes you'll feel like to do something, maybe your hand are itching, your legs are tired or you want to open your eyes maybe.. or you heard something.. tongue.gif - don't be affraid.. biggrin.gif - just realize it, try to see (in your mind) wich part are "want to do" things.. watch it closely.. just realize it.. and remember.. you are still breathing.. just realize it, do not resist just follow it pasively by doing nothing..

example :
you feel like to move your legs, just realize wich are the one who want to, watch it (realize it as a desire) if you really-really feel that u should move your tired legs, then first realize it, realize your desire, when you start to move it, then realize that you are moving your legs.. do it slowly.. realize it, feel it. before you stop move then realize.. it.. there is desire there.. a desire to stop your movement.. realize it.. smile.gif then when you're done and stop your movement, realize it.. then what happen next.. you realize it..

sometimes you forget realizing something and you remember it.. realize that you remember it, then realize it that you were forgot.. hear what 'yourself' said to you.. it's about the detail things that we forgot.

5. try do it when u are awake.. biggrin.gif

well that's for the tips.. just do it regularly.. you'll find difference.. smile.gif what will you get ? well.. find your own..
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post Feb 25 2007, 10:57 PM
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Hi Norrad

I am also very interested in the Buddhism religion, and I have studied it for some years now. If you have problems with being able to meditate I know of somehing that atleast helped me on the way. I started listening to tapes of Jack Kornfield , a monk and founding teacher of he Insight Meditation Society and Spirit Rock Center who give alot of speeches about buddhism and meditation; I will highly recommend the soundbook and video "Jack Kornfield - Meditation for beginners", it will help you to understand more of how & why meditate.

Jack Kornfield's profile at Spirit Rock + upcoming events

Here you can buy all his speeches

This is a unlimited resource to learning what you want to build your inner self smile.gif

I must also say that I respect your wish on becoming a monk, but meditation comes from within, and it is not required for you to learn meditation, but you go with what you feel.

Good luck. smile.gif

Yours sincerely,

lihuyt

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