Lord Jesus and God

So, I go to this Christian school called Peoples Christian Academy, located Toronto, Ontario… Canada ofcourse lol. Anyways, our school always accepts non- Christians to join and always make them believe in God.

I am not a Christian, but I came to pca (peoples Christian academy) and my friends are all Christians. I go to bible class, and my teacher always teach me about the goodness of God, and always shows extra care to me. One day, she asked if I believe in god or not, I though it would be a offense if I said no, so I said yes lol.

So starting then, she start giving me this Christian books (randomness).

So, does anyone of you trust that there is a god or are you in Christianity?

Listen to me, don't fall like the other christians do.
When you go to church, BELIEVE EVERYTHING you hear is a lie. You have to use your critical thinking skills and figure out, DOES THIS MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL? Going to church, you will slowly get (brainwashed in a good way) to believe in God.

It will go to "Do you believe in God?" to "Believe in God or you will go to hell"

Look at your life. You've been through all of this already without God, and you are fine. With God, you will be tought to believe in the ignorance of man over many thousand years

Refer to my other thread -> http://www.trap17.com/forums/dont-believe-god-t58685.html
Ask those things to your teacher and see what she says ^.^

But, In the bible it indicated specifically what will be done, and it actually is.
For example, Global Warming, looks like it is caused by us, but it actually indicated in the bible, which was written 5,000 years ago. I did a lot of research on this.

Because it was my Bible ISP (Independent Study Project), and its worth 15% of the whole years mark.
It truly amazes me how the bible shows phopheys and now we are fulfilling.

Any comments?

Did the bible state "The earth is warming because the humans are using machines that polute the air and release the greenhouse gas CO2"

Or did it say

The earth will get hot because of humans

Yea.

I'm currently a Christian. I believe the classical interpretation of it according to evangelicals: Jesus Christ crucified, raised again, bodily, for the remission of sins. Aside from this, my interpretations of the Bible are quite open compared to most Christians. My advice to you is that if you wanted to ever study Christianity in-depth, is that you should take a look at some of the older documents relating to Christianity, that is, what the church fathers and so forth have written. This should take some of the modern slant out of what modern Christians posit about the Bible. It also helps to check what it says in the original language, because translators don't do good jobs sometimes . As far as the proof of the existence of God and Jesus Christ, I believe based on faith, and just because I see order in the universe. I used to rely a lot on logical argument and "evidence for Christianity," but I found this could often be refuted in endless loops, back and forth. Not very reliable in my eyes. As far as a mystical interpretation to the Bible, I'm also open to sort of "hidden" meanings that underly the scriptures, especially within the Old Testament and Torah -- which was supposedly given to Moses through something like automatic writing, if you believe in the existence of Bible Codes (also known as Equidistant Letter Theory). The religion itself to me is far deeper than what the preachers on television talk about, or what your average Christian knows and follows. As with everything: know it for yourself, not through anyone else.

Kelvin, dont listen anybody. Dont seek someone to tell you what to believe. Dont ask people what they believe, they could be believing for the wrong reasons. Just read... But read from all sides. Read your bible, dont to be contented with someone's thoughts on bible. And read other books too, the other religions and atheist. While reading dont let other people to get you out of your track. Only after you equiped yourself with knowledge, you can be ready to discuss.

By the way, Im muslim.

Once again I am posting after janissary and I almost completely agree with everything he said.

But once again I disagree with Amir as he seems now very uneducated person and for that reason it seems that any discussion with him is almost useless. Well, first thing first consider this CO2 is in fact greenhouse gas but it is not only greenhouse gas that we emit even more pollutant are vapors and similar stuff. On the other hand humans are not in fact largest emitters of the greenhouse gasses but volcanoes are.

And few more things. Firstly you are almost always saying how you do not believe in god or something similar to that but I now see fyour true intentions you just don't like Christian god and bible this is the main reason and not that you do not believe in the God.

I agree with you. Just do some study on your own, and learn as much as possible.

@amirborna:
First of all, I'd like to agree with hitmanblood.
To me, it honestly seems like you just hate God. It would seem kelvinc2 is looking for some serious answers, and everything your saying is just ridiculous.



I'm pretty sure that a teacher who has probably studied for years at a university, can easily refute your opinions:


This post has been edited by KansukeKojima: Jun 11 2008, 03:38 PM

I have discussed with Amir about this in other topics. At last I got a warn because I continued to debate on religious. I gave a promise to a moderator that I will not debate on religious anymore,
but I agree with Janissary, hitm