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May 18 2005, 10:13 PM
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Super Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 380 Joined: 22-December 04 From: usa Member No.: 2,873 |
Hi all,
Nobody has reported on this so.. thought I'd open it for a forum opinion poll. As reported in a recent CNET.com article.. QUOTE Microsoft to add 'black box' to Windows .Published: April 26, 2005, 4:00 AM PDT By Ina Fried Staff Writer, CNET News.com TrackBack Print E-mail TalkBack SEATTLE--In a move that could rankle privacy advocates, Microsoft said Monday that it is adding the PC equivalent of a flight data recorder to the next version of Windows, in an effort to better understand and prevent computer crashes. The tool will build on the existing Watson error-reporting tool in Windows but will provide Microsoft with much deeper information, including what programs were running at the time of the error and even the contents of documents that were being created. Businesses will also choose whether they want their own technology managers to receive such data when an employee's machine crashes. "Think of it as a flight data recorder, so that any time there's a problem, that 'black box' is there helping us work together and diagnose what's going on," Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates said during a speech at the Windows Hardware Engineering Conference here.............. You can read the entire article here.. Longhorn Spyware details What this means ..According to the article.. is.. If Windows Longhorn crashes while you are using ANY program.. the ENTIRE contents (ie a EXACT copy) of what you were working on will go to Misco$oft when you click on the "Report the problem" popup screen. That means MicroSoft will get a EXACT COPY of your.. -IM -IRC -Word document(s) -XL document(s) -Powerpoint document(s) -password information, including banking & credit card information. -ANY OTHER program documents your working on -the names, serial numbers, registration numbers of ANY PROGRAM installed on your computer. Basically, Micro$oft will get a copy of anything it wants from your computer... as long as you have the program open at the time that Window$ crashes.... AND they won't even notify you of what info they have taken. So.. the poll question is.. Do you trust Micro$oft with your confidential information ?? |
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May 18 2005, 10:24 PM
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Desperately seeking "any key" to continue... ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 3,468 Joined: 23-April 05 From: Trap17 storage box Member No.: 6,042 |
This is true. Actually Windows XP does that now. But it’s minus the all the actual data but it records what was running at the time of the crash. However, according to an inside source, Microsoft has to pay hundreds of hours of man power to sit there and sniff through the error record to find maybe one faulty line error. Therefore, as a personal PC data record, and unless you want to pay extra for Microsoft to figure out only your problem, Microsoft would never look at an error data coming from a personal computer. Microsoft will, however, look at the data error from DuPont, IBM, banks and other establishments that is willing to fork over millions of dollars to unpack the error data and recompile it line by line to see what went on.
It is scary that this error data dump is getting smarter and smarter that it can flash-backup the state of your PC. Think about the bandwidth it’ll eat up while uploading…HA~! |
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May 18 2005, 10:48 PM
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Privileged Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 587 Joined: 9-May 05 From: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada, North America, Planet Earth, Our Sun's Orbit, Milky Way Galaxy, The Universe, Beyond Member No.: 6,839 |
This is all way too creepy. It's like I'm being spied on and I don't even know about it. I had no idea what is going on in these computers and the more I hear, the less I like, not that I can do anything about it. I know too that since I had to rent this computer off the college, when they get it back, they'll probably know every little thing I've done on this computer.
I haven't done anything illegal, so that wouldn't be a problem, but just knowing that someone else could go through my personal files (even if I delete them) is kind of scary. Whatever, the marvels of technology... |
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May 19 2005, 12:47 AM
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Moderator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,325 Joined: 8-March 05 From: Mawson, Antarctica Member No.: 4,254 |
Bah! I've known about this for a while now. However, I don't think you can really prevent your computer from being spied on if you plan to buy a computer after 2006 because, like Windows XP, I think that Windows Longhorn will be installed on all new computers.
The only effective way to prevent Microsoft, spywares, adwares, or viruses from entering your computer is abstinence. That is, don't connect to the internet, and never let any computer stick their dirty little CDs and floppies into your computer. And even if you get a virus, you can easily get rid of it with all the good antivirus programs out there. *cough* NOT Norton *cough* |
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May 19 2005, 12:53 AM
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Privileged Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 587 Joined: 9-May 05 From: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada, North America, Planet Earth, Our Sun's Orbit, Milky Way Galaxy, The Universe, Beyond Member No.: 6,839 |
Yea... this is true. I'm sure eventually everything will be monitored just like you see in the movies. Not exactly a good thing, but I suppose you just learn to live with it or hide out in the woods for the rest of your life.
I actually planned to do this as a child. I had it all planned out... build myself a little house... live of the land... not that I'd ever be able to do that. Especially now that I have the internet. I love technology more than my privacy. How sad is that? That said... what is wrong with Norton? I'm just curious, it's not like I use it anyway... but perhaps I should know why I shouldn't choose it in the future? |
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May 19 2005, 05:06 AM
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The Bogey Princess ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 639 Joined: 25-April 05 Member No.: 6,138 |
Honestly, I wouldn't exactly call that spyware... but an operating system that spies on you when your computer has a problem. It's virtually impossible to avoid problems... Isn't there supposed to be an option not to send info? But if it works very similar to a black box... That means it records everything?
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May 19 2005, 05:22 AM
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Privileged Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 518 Joined: 29-April 05 From: Canada Eh?!? Member No.: 6,408 |
QUOTE That means it records everything? Well technicacly speaking everything is recorded already, and there is nothing you can do about it! That's how the computer works, Linux, Windows, Mac, you name it everything you type/ run is recorded, it needs to be how else do you expect the info to get from your KB to the program? As far as the send error, I don't honestly think that's a good Idea, if I were a bank manager (or any other person of great authority) I wouldn't be allowing this feature in my office as I would fear the private personal info of my customers that might be open. And as such sent to Micrsoft. Yeah I trust them with my info, But that doesn't mean I want all my open information sent to microsoft, say you were being investigaed by CSIS (canadian equivlant of FBI) and they felt that you were hiding something that might have apeened durring a crash, a warrant of that information from microsft might be granted, and then it doesn't matter how much I trust micrsoft |
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May 19 2005, 09:39 AM
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Trap Grand Marshal Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,183 Joined: 24-September 04 Member No.: 1,245 |
oh.... i think we need Giant anti spyware for it..
but Gint anti is soft of microsoft then they kill themselves.haha:)_ |
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