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post Jul 24 2005, 10:58 AM
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As many news corporations reported, the british police shot a person suspected to be linked to the "failed" London bombings earlier this month because he refused to stop when a police officer in civilian clothing asked him to do so but ran into a subway station, where an police officer killed him with five shots into the head after he tripped and fell.

Eye witnesses described the killing as if it was rather a cold-blooded murder than as an act of maintaining public security:

QUOTE("Eye witness")
[...] One of them was carrying a black handgun - it looked like an automatic - they pushed him to the floor, bundled on top of him and unloaded five shots into him. [...]

-> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4706787.stm

The official story is that the man shot refused to obey police instructions. What most news sites do not mention while they write about the police instructions is that they came from cops in civilian clothing. In my opinion the "suspect" was absolutely right to make a run for it because about two weeks ago, a muslim has been beaten to death due to his religion:

QUOTE("The Guardian")
[...] According to several sources, the man had gone to a shop around 4.30pm on Sunday to buy cigarettes, and the youths had asked him to hand them over.
When he refused they shouted that he was Taliban, a reference to the hardline Muslim government that ran Afghanistan and harboured al-Qaida terrorists.
The man was punched and fell to the ground and later died in hospital. Police have yet to officially announce the results of a postmortem examination. [...]

-> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,...1527288,00.html

And as if this wasn't enough - I just read [unfortunately on a german-only news site] that Scotland Yard announced that the man shot was an innocent person, a spokesperson said:

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(translated by me) [This is] A tragedy which the London police regrets.

-> http://portale.web.de/Schlagzeilen/Grossbr...en/msg/5911088/

oh, and by the way, he's been suspected to be involved in the "failed" bombings for leaving a house which was observed by the police. That's all. Leave the wrong house, run when people on the street ask you to stop - and be killed...

To say it with the words of a favorite band of mine:

QUOTE("Anti-Flag - Police Story")
We've got no rights when cops can kill,
It's not right, we live in fear

Fear of what you're gonna do, when a cop's talking *BLEEP* to you
Fear of what you're gonna say, when the cops come gunning your way
Fear of what you shouldn't do, when the cops try to provoke you
Fear that on any given day, the cops could take your life away...
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post Jul 24 2005, 12:08 PM
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The great britain pound has dropped quite significantly and the stock market too ... hope that the terrorist will stop all this kinda stupid act ..
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post Jul 24 2005, 12:40 PM
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By beeing afraid and over protective we give those terrorists satisfaction. Once we are afraid their mission is compleate. Because we have to realise that their ultimate objective is not to kill as much people as they can, but to inspire as much fear as they can. If people start to panic and not do their daily routines it means that the terrorists have won. The aftermath of london bombings just gives them satisfaction because the guverment is afraid and the police is shooting everybody up.
A few days ago I noticed on Yahoo News that the Patriotic Act has been made active for an unlimited period of time. That means taping (dont know if this is the spelling) the phones, reading the medical hestory, even you library history (?!?). As more and more freedoms are destroyed the terrorist came closer to their final goal.
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post Jul 24 2005, 08:06 PM
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*update* Here's the police story on BBC (for those who'd like to have an english source and not a german one): http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4712061.stm

And, according to BBC News,
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[Sir Ian] acknowledged "somebody else could be shot" as the hunt continued, but added "everything is done to make it right".


well, might be somebody just as innocent.
Just another note towards police incompetence: A friend of mine whom I trust about finding valuable informations has read somewhere that the person shot left a house with a couple appartements to rent. So the reason why he was suspected to be linked to a terrorist group is that he lived in the same block of flats.
Maybe the London police should execute all of London citizens, just to make sure that no person who could be linked to a terrorist group in any way remains in the city?

well, I don't want to stray off-topic here by suggesting who profits the most from the "terrorist threat", cheers to the world's leaders...
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post Jul 25 2005, 04:03 AM
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well its just simple stupidity on both parts if the guy just stopped and talk to them none of it would have happen, but the bobbies went over board though, all they had to do was immobilize him killing his was not the way to go.
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post Jul 25 2005, 07:06 AM
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The london police is getting paranoid about the bombings. They shoot an innocent man thought to be a participant in the attempted bombing. it is not an standard operating procedure to fire at the suspect, he is after all just a suspect.
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post Jul 25 2005, 01:18 PM
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I'm not a fan of police, but I must admit that these things can happen after the attack to London. Ok that a terrorists can attack a city, but if they make it twice in two weeks it isn't normal. Policemen seem fool man if they have allowed terrorist to make a second attack. So if they say a man running away in a undeground with a bag, they have shot. London's police is too tight to think well. Probably, if I were that policemen, I will have made the same thing.
Anyway is a very dangerous things and the government should make something.
But the problem is always the same, Al Qaeda and Co. can hit every nations every time they want.
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post Jul 25 2005, 06:59 PM
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He didn't carry a bag and some eye-witness gave false reports (in early BBC stories there where witness quoted who said that some wires sticked out of his coat).
A co-worker of mine and I just figured out that we shouldn't appear in public anymore since we're way more dangerous than someone who simply lived in the same block of flats as a terrorist -- we're working at a swimming pool and have access to three brand-new bottles of chlorine, about 500 liters (about 120 gallons if I'm not mistaken) each. Guess what one single person could do with those - and we could order another set of those without anyone becoming suspicious. ok, the next subway station is a few cities away but the next large train station is just a few kilometres from the pool...
...so why don't people get the idea of executing us? we actually figured out how to kill and severely injure hundreds of people and probably won't encounter any problems while doing this...
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