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Feb 24 2008, 10:39 PM
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My story of meditation started last year. For the past year I have been extremely stressed out for not doing as well in competetions as I wanted, not keeping the perfect grade in all of my classes, plus my widowed mom started dating some guy. So I was running away from reality in meditation. Then everything came back to normal and I just forgot about that period. I started getting all A's again, we won the City Championships in Ultimate Frisbee and got the second place in the state, won the regionals and the states in Science bowl, my ideas and suggestions for the school worked well, and a few were even brought to reality, I started the sudent council (that's why I have an account on Trap) and it is still popular among both parents and the administration. But the day before yesterday I was kinda tired, but did not want to go to bed - I was at a sleepover party and didn't want to sleep through all the interesting part of it (we were playing Mafia, and then, later, displayed our skills on the acustic guitar) - so I remembered that I've read somewhere a while ago that 25 minutes of meditation can provide as much relaxation for the brain as 6 hours of sleep (more than I usually get). So I just separated myself, and started meditating. i do not know how much time passed, it felt like a minute or 2, but I think it was actually significantly more than that - you know - you just don't feel the time when you are meditating/asleep/unconcious - but I did not fall asleep for another 26 hours. I didn't have any coffee, or anything - I just felt that my mind is so clear - it does not need a rest. I don't know, if I am able to do it again... but if I am - is it healthy? I mean... if it is - just think about it, how many advantages do I get - twice the time an ordinary person has in life - like I could study more for college, or do my homework at nighttime and spend afternoons with my friends without worrying about coming home. What do you think? Is it worth it?
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Feb 25 2008, 02:09 AM
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Newbie [Level 2] ![]() ![]() Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 31 Joined: 15-November 07 Member No.: 53,095 |
oooh, this is intresting. i've done a few simular things like this, but not to the extent of not needing to sleep for over a day. its hinted at and mentioned in various texts that meditation can do things like sleep, the two can even be blended! much like the sleeping monks in china i read about and people who do different forms of dream yoga.
now as for weather this is healthy or not... i'd say if you did this all the time it would be very unhealthy for you. the human body, regaurdless of the brain needs time for rebuilding and up keep of tissues organs and muscles. espesialy if youre an active youth like it sounds. you body is going to need at least 4-6 hours regularly to rebuild its self. now, if you were to do meditation, deep meditation for 3 hours regularly it might be a bit better depending on what meditations you are doing. but still you will need if not eventualy want time to simply "turn off" and go to sleep. im really becomeing curious as to what form of meditation you are using. but all that aside i'd like to suggest, if i may, that you get a bit more proficent with you meditation so that theres not so much guess work with what you are doing and havin to wonder if what you are doing is healthy. theres a lot of meditation horror stories, i even have a couple myself. but it helps to know for sure that what you are doing is okay and healthy. to lean these things either find a teacher, or some books to study from. or, find meditations that are very clear cut. things like contemplation of zen koans, pranayama and controled breathing or vizualizations. try to stay clear of the advanced medtiations that have to do with taoist alchemy or kundalini yoga unless you have a teacher/master/guru/person. also for an active person like you i'd suggest you start drinking specific teas. with bit of research you can find teas that will help you focus, stay awake, and active. you an also find teas that help with relaxation and memory. i am persoanly very fond of Wong Lo Kat tea. it is a blend of herbs that detoxifies the blood, excretes toxic substances from the blood stream, acts as an anti-bacterial and antiseptic effects, and helps to remove toxins from environmental pollution. also will reinforce the normal cleansing process of the Kidney, Liver, & Spleen and help body to clear away toxic substances effectively. This drink also helps gets rid of pimples, blemishes, rashes and infections of the skin. i am personaly a taoist, and most books i study have recipes for teas that do very specific things for the body. if you can find it i'd suggest going to your local boarders or barns and noble book store and looking for "Scholar Warrior: An Introduction to the Tao in Everyday Life" by Ming-dao Deng. besides being a great realistic aid for understanding the taoist lifestyle, the book lists various recipes for teas and foods that can help you in various ways. it also outline a few different meditations. |
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Feb 25 2008, 02:21 AM
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Premium Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 164 Joined: 7-September 07 Member No.: 49,538 |
oooh, this is intresting. i've done a few simular things like this, but not to the extent of not needing to sleep for over a day. its hinted at and mentioned in various texts that meditation can do things like sleep, the two can even be blended! much like the sleeping monks in china i read about and people who do different forms of dream yoga. now as for weather this is healthy or not... i'd say if you did this all the time it would be very unhealthy for you. the human body, regaurdless of the brain needs time for rebuilding and up keep of tissues organs and muscles. espesialy if youre an active youth like it sounds. you body is going to need at least 4-6 hours regularly to rebuild its self. now, if you were to do meditation, deep meditation for 3 hours regularly it might be a bit better depending on what meditations you are doing. but still you will need if not eventualy want time to simply "turn off" and go to sleep. im really becomeing curious as to what form of meditation you are using. but all that aside i'd like to suggest, if i may, that you get a bit more proficent with you meditation so that theres not so much guess work with what you are doing and havin to wonder if what you are doing is healthy. theres a lot of meditation horror stories, i even have a couple myself. but it helps to know for sure that what you are doing is okay and healthy. to lean these things either find a teacher, or some books to study from. or, find meditations that are very clear cut. things like contemplation of zen koans, pranayama and controled breathing or vizualizations. try to stay clear of the advanced medtiations that have to do with taoist alchemy or kundalini yoga unless you have a teacher/master/guru/person. also for an active person like you i'd suggest you start drinking specific teas. with bit of research you can find teas that will help you focus, stay awake, and active. you an also find teas that help with relaxation and memory. i am persoanly very fond of Wong Lo Kat tea. it is a blend of herbs that detoxifies the blood, excretes toxic substances from the blood stream, acts as an anti-bacterial and antiseptic effects, and helps to remove toxins from environmental pollution. also will reinforce the normal cleansing process of the Kidney, Liver, & Spleen and help body to clear away toxic substances effectively. This drink also helps gets rid of pimples, blemishes, rashes and infections of the skin. i am personaly a taoist, and most books i study have recipes for teas that do very specific things for the body. if you can find it i'd suggest going to your local boarders or barns and noble book store and looking for "Scholar Warrior: An Introduction to the Tao in Everyday Life" by Ming-dao Deng. besides being a great realistic aid for understanding the taoist lifestyle, the book lists various recipes for teas and foods that can help you in various ways. it also outline a few different meditations. Wow. Thanks. I didn't even imagine the process may be as complicated and in-depth. I didn't even know there were different types of meditation |
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Feb 26 2008, 09:09 AM
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Administrator ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 1,436 Joined: 11-June 04 From: Somewhere in Time & Space. Member No.: 1 |
There was a time when I used to meditate about 2 hours easily becoming a part of a universe. The feeling is something like, your body is left alone with its eco-system and you (your conscience) is getting free and released by every minute from the schedules, worries and tensions of day to day life.
There are types of meditation but in the end, the most perfect student is the one who can listen to his guru (or his inner voice) and follow the body. Meditation is nothing but keeping your mind fixed. You cannot say "Concentration". Meditation is more of "Surrender". A Person in deep meditation "surrenders" himself to the universe. He accepts everything in his mind and feels the silence and calmness within himself. This is the art. As you go deep into meditation, you realize there are different gates within your body. We all agree that practice makes a man perfect and the body has its own way of training itself. So the more you meditate deeper and deeper, the more your conscience spreads from inside and unlocks different levels of mental alertness from within. Your thinking changes from "you" to "us". Because, you act more by the nature and less from yourself doing selfless actions. To you Abminara, I suggest that you meditate before early morning sunrise for 30 min. and if in the evening, before sunset. Meditation can however been done at any time of the day. But, if one understands how much our bodies are made according to the natures timetable, we can follow the time suggested by great saints who were masters of meditation and yoga. Yoga is a science which helps your body and mind(the physical part) to optimize its journey towards the inner self. So, with good yoga practice, you get your body ready for pranayam. With the science of Pranayam (the art of breathing), you welcome more oxygen into your system and also push it to remote nerve cells thereby energizing every cell of your body and feeling life to its fullest extent. The science of Pranayam is like fire. Its a blessing if used correctly under the good guidance of a guru. Or with ones own discipline, one can follow the spiritual path and step ahead with your journey into meditation. |
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Feb 26 2008, 10:19 AM
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Newbie [Level 1] ![]() Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 15 Joined: 26-February 08 From: Over, around, then back again. Member No.: 58,476 |
Meditation is hard; you have to be able to concentrate on your thoughts, or nothing at all. It is said that if you practice looking at the heart of a flame and focusing on something you love, including someone, nonstop for about an hour, for about 20 years, you will be able to see with any part of your body.
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Feb 26 2008, 04:51 PM
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Newbie [Level 1] ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: 26-February 08 Member No.: 58,500 |
Meditation is hard; you have to be able to concentrate on your thoughts, or nothing at all. It is said that if you practice looking at the heart of a flame and focusing on something you love, including someone, nonstop for about an hour, for about 20 years, you will be able to see with any part of your body. Human nature has the tendency of following the least resistance path. When we are just born we are completely dependent upon our parents. But as we grow we keep learning & start becoming independent. Things which are impossible for new born to do, now look too simple. Because we have learned & they have become our habit by repeating them again & again. Similarly meditation is hard (for beginner it may appear to be boring) when we start to concentrate & try to relax. But as we practice it consistenly for few days at the same place & at the same hour of the day. It statrs becoming spontaneous & soothing. You feel heavenly & relaxed. We can do it for 10 minutes daily increasing gradualy to 45-60 minutes. With practice we get control on our physical as well as mental health. Everything looks so beautiful. |
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Mar 10 2008, 08:30 AM
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Super Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 490 Joined: 15-March 05 Member No.: 4,538 |
Well if you manage to connect with your inner self or the divine nature within you while you are meditating, you are actually doing the same thing as real sleep. Just think about it! When you sleep, most of the time you dream and that certainly ain't resting! The part of sleep where you really refresh or restart is in a matter of minutes and this is called the deep sleep - but what happens then? Old scriptures say that you merge with your inner self for just a few seconds and you get enough energy to live through the day...Imagine the state of being one with divine nature and your true self, which is nothing else but my and his and hers true self????
The state is called nirvana.. |
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Mar 10 2008, 03:46 PM
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Newbie [Level 1] ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 6-March 08 Member No.: 58,970 |
Balance in life is the best solution to all out problems...balance between material and spirit...between work and sleep...
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