Me & my friend Daniela (the co-owner of this site http://have-heart.net) were thinking since we cant see eachother (she lives in Idaho, & i live in imperial beach, california) we were thinking that we might be able to see eachother by entering eachother's dreams at night... and after some googling i found out that, that is called DREAM WALKING

Ok so what dreamwalking basicly is, is being able to enter someone else's dream while sleeping.. after i did some research i found out that theres 2 ways to do this.. one is to become i have no clue what.. but being able to know when you are dreamining.. like when you are sleeping be like.. OK IM SLEEPING.. i dont like this dream, i want this to happen(which is like being able to control your dreams.. which means you dont ever dream) & well when you get good at that.. according to the site you are unable to "have lucid dreams" after you do that forever.. which is kinda creepy// its like being a ghost who can not rest.. gah. we dont want that.. so we found this other way which is (well daniela tought of it) spells.. we found this one

"By the eye of the moon let enter the realm of the of the time and allow me to open its doors so I may see the ideas of another."

& you have to say if before you go to sleep.. after you have been meditating/thinking hardcore/non stop of the person you want to enter the dream of.. and it also said something about realising that most of the things could be their fantasies not reality or whatever... so i was wondering are there any other spells out there? that are known to work? has anyone ever tried this before? i know it might sound kinda creepy/// but its worth it we really want to see eachother! its eather that or landing in the real world together... or becoming millionares with our site http://have-heart.net using google's adsence, which i doubt will happen! we only have 200 visitors and like 1 <- snipped -> .. hehe.. sad pathetic i know.. anywho yea.. i need your help! on this people of trap17!

/gisellebebegirl

well i dabbled slightly in Wicca and Witchcraft and im hoping to get back into it very soon as it came naturally so any advice below isnt concreted stuff its just what i would do and try.

but first some info on lucid dreams. Lucid dreams aren't spiritual so much as they are psychological. Basically, as you found out you take control of a dream. Now technically this wouldn't allow you to enter another's dreams. you would instead control your dreams and "imagine" them into your dream, but they wouldn't really be there... so you might dream of meeting them but they wouldn't be dreaming the same dream. you have simply created a dream. Its useful, no doubt. And if you want to learn this technique apparently you should make a habit out of something unusual... if you NEVER wear a watch get into the habit of checking for a watch on your wrist....you could also imagine the watch being there, maybe by pretending to read the time or adjust the position of the watch. The idea is that, when you dream this habit will carry on in your dream so you would look for the watch, of course if you see a watch there you are dreaming. Now the trick is to remain enough "sense" while dreaming that you realise that isnt right and therefore are dreaming. difficult no doubt. another way is just to remain sense to double check everything. If you have a pet elephant ask yourself do you REALLY have a pet elephant... if the answer is no yet you appear to have it as a pet then you are dreaming. Still difficult.

Now as for spells... Its a bit tricky.. it depends what kind of craft you follow.. being from wicca i would tend to use much more safety around me and maybe a crystal or candle.. maybe not a candle as you'll be sleeping... stick with a crystal! I guess i would first ask my spirit guide to be with me and help guide me to meet whoever i want to meet in another place while i sleep. I would specifically ask to be joined in a dream but instead to meet them in another place with no harm to anyone. I would probably meditate for a decent time on that person and where i want to meet them. I believe in the astral planes and so i would request my guide to take me to a safe place within a safe plane (of existence) and protect me while there and return me home if things get bad or when its a good time to leave. Of course get the other person to do the same. Also as i believe in the power of two forces (male and female, sometimes embodied by a god and goddess) i would ask these powers, whatever they may be, for protection and guidance. In addition i would probably try to make a "psychic shield" (Google it if in doubt) that would protect me. then i would sleep probably.. I wouldn't expect too much the first time....Maybe just a feeling of their presence in a dream, maybe you almost sense them in a different character in your dream, or maybe you dream of them but they didnt have the same dream. Thats fine, just keep trying and eventually you will have similar dreams and eventually i suspect VERY similar dreams, i wouldnt expect identical dreams as i would consider the dream just scientific thing whereas the sense of each others presence and such to be of the spiritual kind EG you have got close to each other buy your mind has invented the dream for two reasons: to make the meeting more plausible, like a visualization, and its a natural thing during sleep.

The problem is you wont be in much control i expect so lucid dreaming would be very useful. Personally first i would try to meditating on that person and getting them to do the same and together create a room in your minds and send that room out to the other person, both create the same room, just two doors and a rug, create it perfectly in your mind and send it out to another plane or to each other and get to the point where you can see that room perfectly at the click of your fingers. and now put yourself in that room, and get the other person to do the same, keep deep in meditation and try to "feel" each other there. dont imagine, just search for them. you can then try some basic telepathy with Tarot cards, colours or anything and keep practising and i think this would give better results. Remember to protect yourselves though.

If i were to cast a spell or just say a line or two i would always end it with "An it harm none, so mote it be." Just to make sure that if it harms no-one make it happen, if its gonna harm someone, dont let it happen. The reason i say this is because my mum was on a circle where they use to contact spirits, and sometimes, my dad, a total skeptic, would see shadows and jokingly say "is that one of yours" and it most likely was a spirit, of course they never did any harm but i can assure that they can, and that is why my mum stopped. I think some bad stuff happened and it scared her (which isnt easy when it comes to spirits etc...) or she just got a little worried how deep they were getting and she stopped. And if you are going to be sending your presence or spirit to meet someone on another plane its likely you will stay in the lower ones ( if you dont take the "planes of existence" theory then this is meaningless..) and the lower ones are where the living, and the less powerful or pure spirits reside. EG the "bad" ones and i would imagine it's not too hard for them to ruin your little meeting and follow you home as it were so be very careful. Thats why i say about the shield and spirit guide etc.. Call on whichever entities you have faith in to protect you because its unlikely but it could go wrong.

Dont be scared though just careful... I realize how long this is so ill stop now. I could go on all day...Good luck!

I slightly agree with shadowx, but if you don't believe in the occult or spells...I mean really have no doubt it will work, it won't. Plus, your spells are really just inducing lucid dreams anyway. Just because your dreams are lucid and you start having them all the time doesn't mean you're not getting the rest you need. An old eastern religious book, the Bagadavita (I hope I spelled that right), say that when you are dreaming your soul is going about it's own business, basically. So pretty much, it's your soul's time to play because it is no longer forced to be attached to your body and physical mind so it wonders the outer planes or excistence. I believe the occult religions call it Astral Planing or Astral Viewing.

All you need to do is begin meditating everynight before you go to bed. Like shadowx said, imagine you are at a specific place and have your friend do the same. Well, don't imagine that yet. Just meditate on leaving yourself and don't give up and fall asleep, purposely that is; you will most definetly will fall asleep without success for a while when you are a beginner. Once you are both able to acomplish this then you can imagine the identicle places. Your spirit or Astral body works a lot like your real body, you have to think of moving your leg before you actually move it; but, instead of thinking of moving your legs, simply think or moving to that place you have designated to meet eachother.

I should tell that the first time you succeed, it will probably scare you back to reality. Not really scare, I should say, it will shock you. You wind up in a middle ground that most call the vibrational stage. The vibrational stage is the time your soul or spirit it leaving your body....when you fall asleep and dream, basically, we just aren't aware of this stage. The feeling you will get will rush your entire being like a flood. It's so shocking because it's like being born or reborn....it's so incredibly foreign and it feels more real than anything you have ever felt before. Just realize that there's nothing to be afraid of when you experience it the next time and pretty soon you will be able to succeed. As for spirits following you back, I personally don't believe much about that, but that doesn't mean it's not real. If you believe these spiritual beings have power over you, they will. You have to believe in God for him to take action for you...if that means anything to you. Just practice, like everything else, practice makes perfect. Just please don't use spells or magick that you don't know everything about. I'm serious! Didn't mean to yell...lol. With that note, go and have fun, go and experience something you will never forget.

yea i tried what both of you said.. and even though i know it woulda worked.. if i really "meditated" the proper way.. it was inposible to focus on just one person.. my mind keept jumpin from one person to another.. and gah the bell is gonna ring.. ill type more when i come back

It's possible- My oldest son and I do it all the time:) It takes practice but you will get it right eventually, then it just becomes addictive.

The thing with Etheric Projection is you do not have to worry about HOW you are getting to your destination, you just will yourself to be where you want, or in your case with who you want and it is done.

My son and I fly in our dreams because it's fun and we love talking about it the next day:)

So be patient with yourselves experiment and have fun.
I have all kinds of info on astral & etheric projection if you're interested, Pm me and I will send you the link:)

hey guys im new to this forum but i was reading what you said. and the biggest piece of advice i can give you and i hope you at least think about it is.
be careful there are alot of things that can happen when you dream walk or astro-project and not all of them are good i understand you want to see your friend but if you are planing on using spells to get there it leaves you open and unprotected. before you continue, practice some basic shielding techniques, just incase you may never need it but not every thing in the world is good and i would rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it.
i know dream visiting sounds simple but its not it takes alot of practice to be able to do it when you want but if you have faith you will get it but all i ask is be careful and dont get lost.

i just wanted to add to my post please dont be afraid of anything i have said. only be aware of it, think of your new journey as learning to swim and you dont want to get stuck in the deep end with no one to help you.