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Tramposch
post May 31 2007, 12:52 AM
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Well, i am not sure if somebody already posted this, just delete this if somebody did, but i didn't find anything smile.gif

I think that murderers should be hung, but in the electric chair, or whatever they do today, instead of being givin a life sentence in jail! What is the point! them goverment people are just wasting our money, by collecting extra taxes paying for food and items for people in jail! If somebody did something wron, like murdered, and given a life sentence, they have time to think of a new plan for a murder, if they escape!? I am thinking the head of the prisions, or whoever is wanting them to escape and go around and start murding people, but why? Do they know the people who are in jail? Or do they just feel bad for them. Dont feel bad for them, just look what they did, they ended somebodies life unexpectedly, and that is pure wrong, and all they do is give the murderers a time to think of another plan... I think anybody with a life sentence should be killed, or sent away to their death somewhere... somewhere.

Just think, part of your tax goes to.... cleaing up (dont think of it that way) messes from murderers, building new containment areas for the murderers, buying food for the murderers, buying clother for the murderers, buying more murders for the murderers!!

Please tell me what you think about this matter, your opinion..
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post May 31 2007, 05:43 AM
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Hi,

You have to think it in this way that if you do not feel bad for murderers then you are thinking like them and then are responsible for somebody's death so then it gives somebody else to take your life because you were a murderer. You might argue that you murdered the convict because he was a bad guy or something, similarly a woman light have killed her husband because he had tortured her for many years, Obviously you would feel bad for her but then again the law marks her as a murderer.

There is no use if we too behave like them and go on a massacre and If we really wanted to save resources like money, food, water, clothes and such I guess we should get rid of politicians for they are the ones who are responsible for the deaths of a lot of people in situations where they could have helped. A politician is mentally stable when he makes his decisions but a convict in most cases is mentally unstable at the time of the crime or from a long time leading to the time of murder.

Just because they acted foolishly does not mean that we too should go ahead and start decapitating heads.
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post May 31 2007, 08:18 AM
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you know that it takes someone with guts to kill or punish a murderer. in the past, those who do the execution wear masks in order to rid themselves of the guilt (if not all) of killing someone guilty. these days, punishments for the guilty are less strict (for lack of a better term). the punishment given to these criminals are the most "just", because they know they are also messing with people's lives. it's not as simple as shouting "burn at the stake!" or "off with his head!". i believe the justice system still has it's bases planted on the virtues of whatever religion they belong to. they believe that taking people's lives is not the best way to give the punishment, that it's their god who will lay the judgment. some people just think that they're no different if they killed these criminals themselves.

and i forgot to mention that we're talking about the guilty ones, not the innocent ones who are accused wrongly. i guess this is one of the reasons why what you're trying to say here can't work effectively. again, it's just the point of messing with people's lives.
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post May 31 2007, 08:27 AM
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Yes, i am all for killing those who have committed crimes like murder. As long as there is sufficient evidence to back it up. In England we just have a life sentance which is about 30 years. Amazingly stupid. Thoses who have committed crimes that bad just deserve to die (in my opinion).
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post May 31 2007, 09:05 AM
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If they scape? Oh, you must have seen a lot Prison Break recently laugh.gif

Well, seriously, if we start killing murderers we are violating human rights (which some states of the US already do, not to say other non-developed countries). Well, first we can kill murderers to avoid they do it again. And then we can cut thieves' hands to avoid robbery also. The justice cannot be based on the eye for an eye thing. It is supposed to also educate and make criminals think about what have they done. Because you complain for money being wasted on somebody you don't care about. But someone else could say he doesn't care about rapers, kidnappers or pick-pocketers lives. So we could kill them all just to earn some dollars.

It's not right... for me, in the 21st century, justice only kill people in barbarian countries.
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post May 31 2007, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(Jarlaxe @ May 31 2007, 04:27 PM) *
Yes, i am all for killing those who have committed crimes like murder. As long as there is sufficient evidence to back it up. In England we just have a life sentance which is about 30 years. Amazingly stupid. Thoses who have committed crimes that bad just deserve to die (in my opinion).


the reason why it's 30 years because the life expectancy of humans are short. men on the average die around the age of 70-80, women die on a higher age. and if they ever come out alive after the years they've spent in jail, i believe they're old enough and probably tired already so they can't really commit a very heavy crime. it's a bit naive, but i don't think the elders aren't that much capable of commiting crimes any more. i'm actually quite sympathetic of those old ones that spend their lives in jail.

QUOTE(Sprnknwn @ May 31 2007, 05:05 PM) *
If they scape? Oh, you must have seen a lot Prison Break recently laugh.gif


well the competency of the security people is tested if they can't prevent the prisoners from escaping. but it's not enough reason to kill. i guess the part where people should be vigilant in protecting themselves comes in.

QUOTE(Sprnknwn @ May 31 2007, 05:05 PM) *
Well, seriously, if we start killing murderers we are violating human rights (which some states of the US already do, not to say other non-developed countries). Well, first we can kill murderers to avoid they do it again. And then we can cut thieves' hands to avoid robbery also. The justice cannot be based on the eye for an eye thing. It is supposed to also educate and make criminals think about what have they done. Because you complain for money being wasted on somebody you don't care about. But someone else could say he doesn't care about rapers, kidnappers or pick-pocketers lives. So we could kill them all just to earn some dollars.


like what i've said before, it's not the medieval times or the witch hunt era where people are accused and easily punished through ways that could be called inhumane. it's true that the main reason for putting criminals in jail is to keep them in check. but i don't believe that the government is wasting money by letting them stay in prison. in our country, prisons are one of the worst places, because it's so cramped. you'd see the criminals and you can't imagine the agony they're in. some of them can't even sleep because there are no space to lie onto. but i don't think it's enough reason to kill. staying in a prison like that is enough torture for someone to get into his senses.
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post May 31 2007, 05:50 PM
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I agree with Velma and Master bacarra here. If we kill the murderers, then we would be murderers. I believe if we started to kill murderers, then the topic of death will become more widespread. Believe it or not, most people enjoy watching people die (or they did at least). So then, they would want more to die for their entertainment and our population would just start decreasing and a civil war might break out. Yes, that is a stretch, but I don't think much good can come out of killing murderers. After their jail time, very very few of them will still be murderers because they know that taking someone's life isn't worth being in prison and suffering. Interesting idea though, keep thinking.
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post May 31 2007, 08:52 PM
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Killng the murderers would spare them any guilt they would have after being caught and sentenced to jail. Many would say that is enough punishment, if they at all have any guilt, for the murderers. Then there are those who, when caught, was proud of their act and even pleaded guilty due to their arrogance—should these be put to death?—obviously, old age isn't gonna stop them from committing the same crime, for, apparently, they live and thrive on such acts. Then there are those whose life sentences get cut short due to "good behavior." blink.gif

But killing murderers isn't gonna solve the problem. The person that they killed could not be saved, nor is getting rid of one gonna get rid of them all. But "good behavior" privileges should not be given.

QUOTE(Tramposch @ May 30 2007, 08:52 PM) *
Just think, part of your tax goes to ... buying more murders for the murderers!!

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