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Apr 27 2008, 01:51 AM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 27-April 08 Member No.: 61,379 |
The United States should put a large effort into securing our border with Mexico and preventing the crossing of the border by illegal immigrants and the problems that come with them. An average day along the border between the US and Mexico starts early in the mourning for both the sides of the border. The US Border Patrol Agents rise early and head to their posts, ready for another hot day out in the sun. When a call comes in saying that there is an illegal immigrant that has become stranded and disoriented out in the desert and that they need medical assistance, and when the Border Patrol Agent gets there he recognizes the guy as someone he sent back the day before. I would like to discuss the increase in illegal crossing of our borders and how illegal immigration hurts not only those along the border but also all those who live in the United States legally. It is important to know all the facts and also what action can be taken against the illegal border crossings. What are some of the facts about illegal immigration especially border crossings. A. Many immigrants are repeat offenders and an increasing problem 1. 53 % of the border crossers that are caught try again within days 2. One alien said it was his 17th time being sent back 3. 1980 9,000 illegals in prison, 2003 267,000 illegals in prison 4. As long as the 2003 number didn’t go up; though it did it costs us $6.7 billion a year for those in prison B. Under staffed and under funded border patrols 1. The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency works at 50% optimal staffing 2. To wall of all 1,951 miles would cost about $5.3 billion to build 3. To staff the wall with two agents per mile would cost $750,000 per agent or $1.3 billion a year 4. Wall upkeep would be $500,000 a mile or $976 million a year 5. A total annual cost of $2.3 billion 6. Not all would need fencing, only 850 miles, with a $1 billion per year price tag 7. The incarceration costs more a year then it would to build and maintain the wall to stop the movement C. Cost of the illegal immigrants is very high 1. Crimes committed by these illegal aliens cost us annually as much as $150 billion 2. Accidents caused by illegal aliens cost us $11.5 billion a year 3. The education cost for the illegal alien’s children is $34.5 billion a year 4. These costs all together are $196 billion a year, or $193.7 billion more that what it is to maintain the full wall along the border D. Crime rates are higher with illegal immigrants then with citizens 1. 704,709 crimes were committed by illegals last year The United States should take a hard stand on the border by building the double wall system along the entire border, legislation, and employing two or more agents per mile of border. A. Legislation 1. Making a national ID system that requires proof of citizenship, used for all non cash purchases and deposits 2. Enforce strict penalties on those here and working to act as a deterrent 3. Government assistance should only be allowed to those with proper ID 4. School closed to those without proof of citizenship (kid to parent) 5. English as national language to be full citizen (Undocumented and tourism) 6. National ID to vote, early vote done at station. No mail ins. 7. No English, no driving law 8. Reword the 14th amendment to not allow anchor children or illegal aliens children are citizens 9. No free healthcare to non citizens B. The Wall 1. Cheaper to build the wall then to keep illegals in country 2. Proven that solid fences are gone around, no way around no coming C. Border Agents 1. Train them as military units 2. 2 or more per mile. 3. Allow them to shoot to kill at checkpoints when large groups of immigrants come through How will this help the problem? A. Employ more Americans 1. It will take a doubling of the Border Patrol to guard border 2. Many needed to build and maintain the wall B. Make some volunteer to go home 1. If their family can’t come they will go back 2. Lose benefits of being here won’t want to be here C. Safer society How much longer will we allow our southern border to be invaded? How can we live and sleep at peace knowing that we don’t know who or what is coming across our border while we go about our lives? With the wall and the agents this would not be a problem and we could focus on other things. In summary, not having a secure border with Mexico is a determent to our safety and it is costing us billions of dollars a year. These problems and costs will only increase if the border is not closed to those coming here illegally. Because of these issues the US government should make federal legislation to help law enforcement and the Border Patrol keep us safe by securing the border. By working together, the government and the people we can solve this problem. Call or write to you senators and congressmen and ask them to take a stand on illegal immigration and border control, also if you have time or the ability to go down and volunteer your time as a border patroller with volunteer groups. It is time to get off our buts and do something. Through commitment we can ensure the safety of ourselves and our children and leave them with one less problem to deal with. Sources http://www.usillegalaliens.com/ created by PF Wagner |
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May 1 2008, 08:46 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 122 Joined: 10-September 05 From: Corpus Christi, TX Member No.: 11,699 |
I agree with you 100%. Unfortunately, now everyone will call you a racist simply for adorning the facts.
If people want to come to America, they need to wait in effing line just like everyone else. |
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May 3 2008, 04:23 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 123 Joined: 12-March 08 From: New Jersey USA Member No.: 59,194 |
after reading the above posts I have to put in my 5 cents.
Yes the usa does need to tighten things with all the people coming into the states without a visa, But you all need to understand how hard it is to get a visa now a days. Before 9-11 all you had to do was fill out a few forms and poof you had a good chance of getting in. Now they check everything from how much money you make to if your working and even if you or ANY of your family had a record of any kind, even a speeding ticket! I know this because of my girlfriend, she is from the phils and we plan on marrying. But for the INS and all there red tape and all the one that come into the usa the WRONG way it is making it very hard for the good and hard working ones to get here. there I have spoke my peice. thank you |
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May 7 2008, 01:15 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 122 Joined: 10-September 05 From: Corpus Christi, TX Member No.: 11,699 |
after reading the above posts I have to put in my 5 cents. Yes the usa does need to tighten things with all the people coming into the states without a visa, But you all need to understand how hard it is to get a visa now a days. Before 9-11 all you had to do was fill out a few forms and poof you had a good chance of getting in. Now they check everything from how much money you make to if your working and even if you or ANY of your family had a record of any kind, even a speeding ticket! I know this because of my girlfriend, she is from the phils and we plan on marrying. But for the INS and all there red tape and all the one that come into the usa the WRONG way it is making it very hard for the good and hard working ones to get here. there I have spoke my peice. thank you I'm really sorry about your situation, but you don't need to be looking towards us for solutions. If you need anyone to blame. blame the terrorists. Us on the other hand, still have to look out for ourselves, and that's the bottom line. Don't worry, I'm paying taxes on all the nonsense they do in order to admit people in, and it angers me as well. Hopefully things will "change"(NO OBAMA) and we end the war abroad and work on securing our homes, instead of starting false wars everywhere else in the world. I'm sure that if I were in the same situation as you I'd feel differently. I hope that things speed up for you and your fiance so that you can be together in the US. This post has been edited by baphometslayer: May 7 2008, 01:16 AM |
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May 12 2008, 12:54 AM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 27-April 08 Member No.: 61,379 |
I am glad that you see things my way. It is an atrocity that the fact that we have illegal immigrants trying to come here has such a great effect on those who are coming within our legal system. I don't think that our politicians realize the severity of the issue. While they sit in Washinton arguing over amnisty or not, more and more illegal immigrants cross the border and come into the united states. Before adressing the amnisty issue the borders need to be secure so that we will not have more terrorist attacks and that we can adress those who are here without having to worry about those who are still coming. This will prevent us from having to adress the problems again in the future.
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May 13 2008, 11:10 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 142 Joined: 10-May 08 From: Central California Member No.: 61,933 |
No doubt we have an immigration problem. Here in Central California I'm surrounded by illegals. No english, playing that awful mexican carnival music all the time, junk cars on the lawns, illegal fat teenage girls pushing baby carriages, graffiti, vandalism, etc.
It should be pointed out, however, that 3 million illegal aliens here are NOT from Mexico, and thousands are from the Middle East. One of them crossed the CANADIAN border to participate in 9/11. No matter how bad the Mexican illegal problem is, let's agree not to allow the govt. to distract us from the fact that 19 terrorists flew in here with Visas and 15 of them had paperwork out of order. I'll take a thousand Christian Mexicans over one Islamofascist friend of Bush from Saudi Arabia any day. SLAM THAT DOOR!! |
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May 15 2008, 10:03 PM
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Member [Level 2] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 83 Joined: 18-December 07 Member No.: 54,935 |
As negative as this may make me sound, I have to say that illegal immigrants from Mexico have benefitted us in the United States more than hurt us. Let's consider some facts.
Who do you see working on roads and buildings the most often? Generally Mexican men. Who works for the lowest pay in the US? Generally illegal's because they cannot get in with real companies. Think about how many less houses we would have here were it not for the immigrants doing things for us. Therefore, I have to say that we would not be half of what we are today were it not for them. |
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May 15 2008, 10:38 PM
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Super Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 416 Joined: 26-January 08 Member No.: 56,881 |
If the Mexicans can't get into the US, why can't they stay in Mexico? We can get charities for them, no problem. I mean, why would they even want to come into the US anyway, with the problems it's facing, both intra- and inter-nationally.
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