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Moolkye
post May 11 2006, 12:16 PM
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I have always wanted to learn programming, but any tutorials or courses I find, that are free, teach you the same way. Write hellow world. here is the code. Now you have written your first program. That doesn't teach you crap. I am not good at reading and learning do to my ADD. I have to have hands on. I wish there was a way or someone who would be like, "Ok, this is how you do it" And show me step by step. But no one wants to take the time to show anyone else.

I think I would make a good programmer and have some good ideas for programming on a lot of different realms. But I can not do it alone. DANG THIS ADD!!!!!!
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post May 11 2006, 12:26 PM
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I'm like you in that i learn best from doing, i just cant learn from reading and watching i have to do it to know it properly. The way i learnt was to read some things, like with php (its he language i know best but the same ideas apply) i read a few tutorials like variables and writing things to a browser it started with stuff like
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echo "hello world";

$text = "hello world";
echo $text;

but i eneded up using that simple command to write an entire dynamic website.

the thing is you need to take small things and expand them. I think you should read about every command there is to know. first of all get an idea. Maybe a simple calculator. learn how to add things andf how to output the data in text. Then learn how to make it do more complex things like FORMAT the data then output it. Then move on from that to something more complicated like a spell checker using an external file. Dont bother learning the ins and outs of how to read files just concentrate on the parts you need THEN learn the rest. this way you dont get bored of jus reading you only read what you need to know then use it and modify it yourself rather than reading more. Once you get tired of one command or it just isnt good enough anymore learn about a new one. Thats how im learning more php, im trying to make a forum and to be honest i havent got much of a clue what im doing or how to do it but by doing what ive said aboce i know i can make one.

Hope that helped a little bit!

good luck and dont give up, infortunately i cant program in C or C++ so i cant give any specific advice but thats worked for me with html javascript php and some VB so it should work for you! smile.gif

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post Aug 27 2006, 03:54 PM
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Programming in any language is best learnt by going handson. With a good book by your side.
In the case of C/C++, I would recommend Herbert Schildts Complete Reference. It is a very good book for people new into programming. Then later once you have gone through this book, you can read Kerningham and Ritchies C Programming Language. Thinking in C++ by Bruce Eckel is another good book for C++.

In every case, there will be a hello world program. The reason being that it is the simplest program to write and one which gives you a visible output.

If you are interested in real world interaction using C programs, there is an excellent site www.learn-c.com
This site tells you how to use C programming to connect to electronic stuff and how to control them. It starts with the basics like how data is organised. A very good site if you want to learn C programming and finally control a robot wink.gif

Hope this helps.
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post Sep 23 2006, 04:36 PM
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Tutorials usually start with "Hello world" to teach you the basics. Teach what exactly? - how to display "Hello world" happy.gif from then on, stuffs gets added and added and added smile.gif same tutorials are slow, some are more advance.

IMO, "Hello World"s are ok smile.gif it's familiar to any programmer happy.gif makes the shift much easier smile.gif

but i agree....i don't know of any good developers who are good just because of reading happy.gif you'd have to try it out for yourself smile.gif
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Eh hello world was and is and will stay like ultimate introduction it is standard to learn you how to write hello world later on you might find some other things. I don't know which site have you used but on that site there are for certain more tutorials and you can find some good thing on it for certain. But for c++ I would suggest that you use some sort of book or similar script and for java sue just api documentation it will explain everything to you.
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