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Nov 15 2005, 12:30 AM
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Member [Level 1] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 10-November 05 Member No.: 14,045 |
Ok, this is a mixed post, its a vent about stupidity, and its also an agreeal with a article from CNN... check it out Here. its a truely amazing article.. it brightened my day. if you havent realized yet, im very ANTI-Bush, probably because im very liberal (shocking huh?). well anywayz, bush finally got what he deserved, realization that only 37% approve of his presidential actions. i was truely impressed by cnn publishing it, they are good for showing both sides of stories. im now onto venting... The war oversee's is a joke now. im not trying to offend people by saying this because i will explain myself. im glad we took retaliation against a US threat, and im proud of how we executed our plans to take control against them (executed is an ironic term for the war isnt it?). We easily "took over" and aided them along their way to governmential reconstruction, and we have settled the cities down enough to do this.. but one comes to wonder, why the heck we're still over there.. we did our duties, we executed our orders, we accomplished our goals, but why still there.. some pro-war activists explain this is assurence that the revolting will cease and that we will keep aiding them back to health.. extremist anti-war spokesmen talk of emperialism, dominance, colonialism. Then theres people like me, (yes, there are people like me) who feel that the war is over, our battles fought, and now its time to come home.. we dont need to babysit them, its now THEIR problem, i think bush feels guilty now and he is trying to fulfill himself.
First Reason for war? Weapons of mass destruction, haah i think not.. guess what dubya, there WASNT ANY. we lost money over paranoia, or was it, maybe it was all a conspiracy to get us to go to war... but what for?.. OIL, land, economy, PR, world relations, showing of strength.. whats a few US soldiers to a dictato. . ehem... president if he can get what he wants. How many zero's sit left of the decimal in our Debt's.... TOO MANY.. bush in my eyes is a failure as a president. or maybe, just maybe bush isnt to blame, maybe its our corrupted govt system that we say strains SOOO far from the others.... were no different than england... he just uses a different title.. he IS an absolute ruler (aka Master and cheif).. a President (someone with absolute rule (just about)) thats a topic that could take YEARS to cover. but thats my take, critism is acceptable, random hate @ me isnt. i like seeing 2 sides to the story, so plz post yours with some support with it plz. dont vent against my venting,, thats just stupid, and it will be ignored, by me atleast. |
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Nov 15 2005, 12:58 AM
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$p4m 0n j00 $h4m3 m3 0nc3 $p4m 0n m3 $h4m3 m3 7\/\/1c3 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 6,807 Joined: 21-September 04 From: 9r33|\| 399$ 4|\|D 5P4/\/\ Member No.: 1,218 ![]() myCENT:62.60 |
thats old news his rating have been going down since he came into office and the war on terrorism made sure it goes lower.
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Nov 15 2005, 01:18 AM
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Super Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 408 Joined: 7-December 04 From: Nova Scoita, Canada Member No.: 2,604 |
I voted no but that doesn’t mean I am totally against the war. Some good may come out of bushes actions but I just don’t think it is worth the cost. I do think though that what the Americans are doing there is good for IRAQ. So I think they are doing some good but again, it is the price. The amount spent on the war is nuts and it is making it difficult for other agencies in the government to get the needed level of funding. Also there is the human cost of the people that go there and although the casualties aren’t that high it is a lot to put people though. And it is hard to tell anyone that lost suns and daughters there that the casualties are low.
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Nov 15 2005, 03:34 AM
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Member [Level 1] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: 10-November 05 Member No.: 14,045 |
QUOTE(s243a @ Nov 14 2005, 08:18 PM) I voted no but that doesn’t mean I am totally against the war. Some good may come out of bushes actions but I just don’t think it is worth the cost. I do think though that what the Americans are doing there is good for IRAQ. So I think they are doing some good but again, it is the price. The amount spent on the war is nuts and it is making it difficult for other agencies in the government to get the needed level of funding. Also there is the human cost of the people that go there and although the casualties aren’t that high it is a lot to put people though. And it is hard to tell anyone that lost suns and daughters there that the casualties are low. very true, good may come, but the chance is still there. chance in life is good because great things may come of it, but chancing with such high stakes is not wise. maybe if he was on the front lines, maybe he would see the reality... its a shame so many have to die over this. |
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Nov 15 2005, 10:42 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 107 Joined: 9-September 05 From: Houston, TX USA Member No.: 11,651 |
I voted no, but the question of "do I approve of the war" is a pretty general one. I mean, are you asking if we think we should immediately remove our troops? Or whether we think the war should ever have been fought in the first place?
As for the latter, I say that we never should have gone into Iraq in the first place. Based on the case that the Bush administration tried to make for the war I was not convinced then, and I demonstrated and wrote to my congressmen and everything. But now that we're there and we busted up the country so bad we've got to do something, I wish I knew what it was, but something to help bring about some form of government acceptable to the Iraqi people. Then we should completely withdraw (unless invited to stay This issue really gets me mad and it's hard not to go off on a huge rant. The Bush administration is a disgrace. |
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Nov 24 2005, 05:15 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 108 Joined: 24-November 05 From: Switzerland Member No.: 14,836 |
Well, well, still fail to grasp why and how people gave this man their support at election time. An inspired and original way of beating the bush, perhaps?
This great nation has all-too-easily accepted to have political dynaties snugly brought up to run their lethal businesses. If the president's ways to run the country kinda worries you, you should try asking to Yale how many more of his like they still have in store for the next 50 years to come, friend. Fishes always start rotting head first. I used to know an engineer who said, knowingly : nothing's ever so bad that it can't become worse. |
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Nov 24 2005, 09:33 PM
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Premium Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 199 Joined: 29-September 05 Member No.: 12,363 |
Im deffenintley against the F_king war that Bush started. First what has he of kind of problems to get involved in other countries problems. And the second Bush is a F____ fool, idio_ and much more and I dont know why over 50% choosed him??
Anyway Im almost against all hes actions so its easy to that I hate him. America was going to be an peace countery before Bush came, but then when Bush came then first started the terrorist being angry at him and then the peapole booth on the president and on the terorists. Trorist crashed two planes in World Trade Center and made it to collapse. Thw whole f_cki_ng starting was bush wrong, the terorist attack maybe not would happen if not bush got to be president. SO DOWN WITH F_K_ING BUSH!!!!! |
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Nov 24 2005, 09:43 PM
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Member [Level 3] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 91 Joined: 4-March 05 Member No.: 4,151 |
Well, I'm not going to bash you... I'm conservative, and although we may diasgree on some points, I somewhat agree with you here. While I feel the "better safe than sorry" approach was better at first, we're done in iraq, we don't need to lose any more soldiers. I will disagree with people's points on the war on oil, as gas prices have only went up since the war started.
You can't blame GW for going to war with the intelligence that was given to him. He, just like most other presidents, are politicians, not military experts. He can only go off of the information that his advisors tell him. If you were in his shoes, and your top military advisors told you that a country may be a threat to your country, you would probably have done the same thing. |
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