Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register)



2 Pages V   1 2 >  
Reply to this topicStart new topic
> Future Os Concept
burgen
post Jan 19 2005, 08:32 PM
Post #1


Advanced Member
*******

Group: Members
Posts: 101
Joined: 15-January 05
Member No.: 3,293



it is my perception on future OS, just some random thoughts
Internet already is a indispensible part of computer and future OS will be focus on better using and serving Internet.
nowadays most PC are clients of the whole network, in the future, one important feature of OS will be making every PC a client as well as server.
for example, by default /my documents will be home directory of servers like web server, ftp server or mail server, but by default everything is kept private but you can make anything public by simply right-click the item. you can also encrpyt you public items by assigning passwords or IP restrictions. Thus web publishing and file sharing will be as easy as a few clicks.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
StonedMetalJewel...
post Jan 19 2005, 09:52 PM
Post #2


Newbie [Level 2]
**

Group: Members
Posts: 37
Joined: 18-January 05
Member No.: 3,325



While you're building this new OS, can you make it less vulnerable to viruses, adware, spyware, hijacking, and all of the other little things that the internet lets creep into one's home via the phone or cable line? Lots of people like me are not good at knowing what to install or configure. My PC is a mess, because though I use some blockers, I didn't realize that my daughter was using IM without the browser so no protection was in place. Can't seem to clean it all up now.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
burgen
post Jan 19 2005, 10:13 PM
Post #3


Advanced Member
*******

Group: Members
Posts: 101
Joined: 15-January 05
Member No.: 3,293



QUOTE(StonedMetalJewelry @ Jan 19 2005, 04:52 PM)
While you're building this new OS, can you make it less vulnerable to viruses, adware, spyware, hijacking, and all of the other little things that the internet lets creep into one's home via the phone or cable line?  Lots of people like me are not good at knowing what to install or configure.  My PC is a mess, because though I use some blockers, I didn't realize that my daughter was using IM without the browser so no protection was in place.  Can't seem to clean it all up now.
*


security might be concern, but it is a concept, so let's not think about those things for a second, techniquely it can be solved.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
osknockout
post Jan 19 2005, 10:38 PM
Post #4


Super Member
*********

Group: Members
Posts: 399
Joined: 14-November 04
From: Elysium
Member No.: 2,280



Alright, how many people here have actually attempted to code an OS?
Nadie I'm sure. I hate it when people don't know what they're talking about,
but going on... mad.gif

QUOTE
one important feature of OS will be making every PC a client as well as server

Don't think so. What are you going to do? Apache your Win distribution? Oh
yeah, and how much does IIS cost? A US thousand right? How much does
that add to the retail price of a computer? Quite a bit. What does that do?
Lower customers. ... = not going to happen.

Besides, which genius decides to build an OS specializing in the internet?
Isn't that what the prgm's are for? After all, an OS is meant to be system
code dealing with hard computations fast. That means x86 asm, C/C++,
PERL even. I can understand an optimization for internet management
routine, but come on, this is not sensible. I understand both of your
web development viewpoints, but practically, not going to happen.

But...
QUOTE
While you're building this new OS, can you make it less vulnerable to
viruses, adware, spyware, hijacking...

Yes and no. If it enables a 'ignore network access' then right. If not, then
it's not possible, no matter how hard you try. Here, the Hacker's Manifesto.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
burgen
post Jan 19 2005, 10:58 PM
Post #5


Advanced Member
*******

Group: Members
Posts: 101
Joined: 15-January 05
Member No.: 3,293



QUOTE(osknockout @ Jan 19 2005, 05:38 PM)
Alright, how many people here have actually attempted to code an OS?
Nadie I'm sure. I hate it when people don't know what they're talking about,
but going on... mad.gif
Don't think so. What are you going to do? Apache your Win distribution? Oh
yeah, and how much does IIS cost? A US thousand right? How much does
that add to the retail price of a computer? Quite a bit. What does that do?
Lower customers. ... = not going to happen.


while 20 years ago i don't know what is PC, 10 years ago I though it is impossible for every family to buy a PC, how much will that cost? so, you never know, the cost thing will not be concern at all. specializtion is very possible, different OS, or same OS with different building blocks may be developed for different users.

one trend of technology is that technolgy becomes more complex itself while simper for users to use. like blogger, you don't need to know anything about html, web hosting, php or sql and yet you can make a blog.

so in the future it may happen that every pc is a server, indeed it expanded the internet infinitly and make publishing, file transfering and sharing much easier.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
osknockout
post Jan 21 2005, 12:52 AM
Post #6


Super Member
*********

Group: Members
Posts: 399
Joined: 14-November 04
From: Elysium
Member No.: 2,280



QUOTE
so in the future it may happen that every pc is a server

You can say that burgen, but what's the point?
every transatlantic cable would be overloaded with
communications. In the US that's fine, they made too many,
but for our European friends... sorry guys.

Don't get me wrong, I like it a lot, but it's hard to make practical.
In the mean time, stick with the BitTorrent client laugh.gif
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
burgen
post Jan 21 2005, 02:15 AM
Post #7


Advanced Member
*******

Group: Members
Posts: 101
Joined: 15-January 05
Member No.: 3,293



QUOTE(osknockout @ Jan 20 2005, 07:52 PM)
You can say that burgen, but what's the point?
every transatlantic cable would be overloaded with
communications. In the US that's fine, they made too many,
but for our European friends... sorry guys.

Don't get me wrong, I like it a lot, but it's hard to make practical.
In the mean time, stick with the BitTorrent client laugh.gif
*


again, this is assuming that technology also advanced enough that bandwidth may not be a problem.
and that is just a concept, in today's world there are too many concepts, it is a matter of which do you invest time and money in, whatever concept you believe in, with enough time and money throwing in it will happen. And thus the trend of technology is not based one the minds of genius but on the minds of the CEOs of big companies.
like the story of RDRam, great idea, great product, no success.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
dontmaimyourself
post Jan 26 2005, 05:55 PM
Post #8


Lord of the last day
*********

Group: Members
Posts: 526
Joined: 30-July 04
From: England
Member No.: 305



That would be grate in an ideal world i.e a world without microsoft but aslong as there the main os manufacturer there'll be nothing close to good apart from linux, any way the most important thing is security, like killing viruses.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
burgen
post Jan 26 2005, 08:18 PM
Post #9


Advanced Member
*******

Group: Members
Posts: 101
Joined: 15-January 05
Member No.: 3,293



QUOTE(dontmaimyourself @ Jan 26 2005, 12:55 PM)
That would be grate in an ideal world i.e a world without microsoft but aslong as there the main os manufacturer there'll be nothing close to good apart from linux, any way the most important thing is security, like killing viruses.
*


while I don't think microsoft is that bad, without it probably we will not have the computer world today, without windows probably computers still are only exist in labs or factories.
Talking about security, I don't think viruses are the major problems, it is the spyware and adware and trojen horse that are threats, these things don't break your PC, so normal users don't know whether you have them or not, instead they steal the CPU power, internet bandwidth, the user information (credit card, address, phone, etc). and these things are everywhere today, take 10 computers you will find them from about 7 of them. and since they don't break PC, normal users will not know and try to fix them.