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post Feb 12 2008, 09:47 PM
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The website www.3minutedepressioncure.com claims to hav a quick fix for getting rid of your depression by regulating your vitamin B intake. Personally I think it's crap because I could't find any scientific explanation that sounds valid for me. Has anyone heard (or even tried) this?

I also heard that mind-training is probably the best way to get rid of a depression (so no vitamins), unless there's evidence of some biologic disorder. Does anyone know if that's true?
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post Feb 12 2008, 10:08 PM
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Well it all depends on the cause of the depression in the first place. Lets say you eat only junk food and no fresh veg, then yes vitamins will most likely help you to feel happier and more active. Maybe your favourite pet just died in which case you will need time to get over it. Maybe you have a chemical imbalance and so might need drugs to help, maybe you have a psychological problem and need counselling.

Because there are so many causes there are also lots of solutions. Thing is with taking drugs, and i would imagine vitamins to some extent, is that unless its a vitamin deficiency or a chemical imbalance all the drugs/vits do is make you happy for a little while, they wont solve the root cause of anything. Its like putting a plaster over a bullet wound. It stops bleeding the damage is still there and eventually it will get you. The only thing you can do is treat he root cause and let the wound heal itself.

Best thing to do with depression is find out the cause, if you cant find a cause, EG nothing bad has happened and your life is pretty good even though you might not think so, then you should see a doctor because in these cases its more likely to be a chemical problem and so easily treated. Of course if something bad has happened, or you had a really bad childhood still see your doctor and ask if he can refer you to a psychiatrist or therapist as he most likely wont be able to do much.


Of course im not a Dr nor medically qualified, this is just based on what i think is right and the psychology i did at college (which wasnt much) so best advice, if you're looking for advice, is to see someone qualified.
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post Feb 16 2008, 02:21 PM
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The website www.3minutedepressioncure.com claims to hav a quick fix for getting rid of your depression by regulating your vitamin B intake. Personally I think it's crap because I could't find any scientific explanation that sounds valid for me. Has anyone heard (or even tried) this?

I also heard that mind-training is probably the best way to get rid of a depression (so no vitamins), unless there's evidence of some biologic disorder. Does anyone know if that's true?

There two differt type of depression: first - commonly used for describe a temporary depressed bad mood - obviously you have reason for this condition. second - clinical depression - serious illness - without external reason - need for doctor consultation and medical treatment because of high risk of suiside
What about vit B - I haven't met strong evidence, which prove it's efficacy against depression.
As for exercises - there are a lot evidences of it's efficacy in medical literature. Efficacy of exercises is very high. This was proved by big clinical studies based on strong statistics. For example: http://dukenews.duke.edu/2000/09/exercise922.html http://www.prolonglife.org
Evolution created human body for permanent moving. Nowdays poeple have lack of physical action, this lead to many problems such as: obessety, cardio-vascular disease, depression and so on.
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post Mar 7 2008, 12:55 PM
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I have read a book which name is "psicofitness" by Italian brain doctor Dr. Giampaolo Perna (http://www.psicofitness.com/).
One of the principal results that Dr. Penna obtained from his studies about depression was about aerobic workout.
He realized that 20 minutes of aerobic exercises every day for a depress person has the same effect of taking a "proxac" pill.
My advice to get rid of a depression is to start practising some sport.
This method could be added to other methos as I think that every problem can be solved better if tackled in many ways simultaneously.
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post Mar 7 2008, 06:43 PM
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But you can always intake medicines like phenelzine,iproniazid,equanil.....on doctors advice which gives relief from depression and also hypertension....smile.gif
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post Apr 10 2008, 09:55 PM
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There are a lot of quick cures for depression that work--- for some. None work for all or even many.

There are numerous causes of depression, some psychological (cognitive distortions, learned helplessness, emotional repression), some physiological (vitamin deficiency, lack of sleep).

Every practitioner has his of her bias on what works best. Every case is different, but here are something that do work well:

antidepressants (especially SSRIs, such as flouxetine)-- they have their disadvantages but they work.
Cognitive Therapy- and related approaches such as cognitve-behavior, reality therapy, RET
Hypnosis- but only for a certain subset
Exercise.
For a small number vitamin B.

The most important thing is to start to take some action to deal with and overcome it. The first approach might not be the one best for you.








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post Apr 13 2008, 05:41 PM
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What it comes down to is that there is NO "quick" and "easy cure" for depression. Any site that goes on like that with guarantees is full of itself. As pointed out before there are many reasons for depression and many combination reasons too.
Chemical imbalances
Chronic pain
Environmental factors (such as pet or relative dying as example)
Sleep patterns
Eating habits
The individual's ability to cope and adapt
Stress factors
Activity levels
Past issues that have not been healed ( incest, rape, abuse, betrayal etc)
Blah blah blah blah......

The best thing you can do is eat right, stay active, sleep good and see if you can figure out why you are feeling so down. If you can't pin point it then see a counselor or a doctor. If you see your doc and they prescribe meds feel free to play 20 questions with them. There are so many antidepressants out there now and new ones get pimped out quickly by the medical field even though they may not be the right one for you. Ask about side affects....common AND not so common. If you do start on a medicinal regime and you feel WORSE then let your doc know RIGHT away. Sometimes meds can make things WORSE if it is the wrong chemical or dosage.

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post Apr 17 2008, 02:22 AM
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anything that claims to work and doesnt cost the earth is worth a shot if you suffer with depression! exercise is said to work also
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post Apr 17 2008, 01:59 PM
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shouldn't laughing be the quick fix for depression? biggrin.gif
anyway, regulating vitamin b intake doesn't seem quick enough. It would still require time for the body to make adjustments.