Computinghost Regression

I'm going to come right out and say it. Computinghost has regressed tenfold, yes we have the new mycent system but the new plans well... they're a joke, what cost me $35 a year ago would not cost me $80 under the new logic plan, and thats without the unlimited mysql, domains etc. I don't want unmetred bandwidth and space so it will have to be the logic plan. What I wan't is the old plans, where you pay a SET price for a SET plan with unlimited features and a varying amount of bandwidth and space depending on the plan, the logic system charges $10 dollars for 4 mysql databases for example.

I'm sure I can keep my plan next time it comes to renew but I quite wanted to upgrade from the freedom package I bought to the one above but under the new system I can't

The new MyCent system is great... except I'm perfectly happy to pay real money for my hosting but I'm not interested in all the restrictions, why couldn't mycent be introduced to the old hosting that way I could pay for my hosting and domains from that, instead I will have to save about $120 from mycent instead of about $55 over the course of this year. thats over 100% increase for less features and to me £16 is an easy amount to pay, £40 is not.

I just dislike the new Computinghost I feel that trap17 has progressed but computing host has regressed.

As someone who never actually pays for their hosting (and with free hosting available, why should I bother if I don't use it all that seriously?) I can't really say that I can see from your point of view. Naturally, I can understand that some people don't post at all and instead pay for their hosting, but my simple argument for that is that if that's what they want to do then why not go and find a company that offers a better paid service (i.e. one that doesn't happen to also be the best free host around)? I'm not saying that Xisto is by any means a poor provider of decent paid hosting, I just think that the focus should really be on the flexibility it offers.

Sure, although I haven't actually looked at the figures, assuming that the packages are now, say, twice as expensive as they used to be for those who pay for their hosting out of their own pocket, the fact that you can cut down the amount you have to pay from anywhere between not-at-all to completely by posting on the forums. Sure it comes down to how much time you have available to devote to keeping up with the posting to keep your myCENTs up, but remember that you can always supplement anything you don't quite meet with a little boost from PayPal or similar.

This is all assuming that I'm not missing something and that ComputingHost offers different services from those available to us here on the Trap17/AstaHost forums...

It's not so much that I mind paying more for the hosting, what I mind paying for are things such as unlimited database and parked domains etc which should be provided free, otherwise I wouldn't have as much of a problem with the new plans.

This post has been edited by kobra500: Nov 13 2008, 08:42 PM

But be honest: do you really need that many databases/parked domains? The fact that you're making a small fuss about it tells me that you'd at least like them, but are they really that necessary? Failing that, why not register the unlimited (within reason) hosting plan (if I remember rightly it's called the Ideal Plan)? Pass as to how much that costs, but I assume it's at least in part what you're referring to when you talked about the boost in price.

With the recent changes, I'm more than happy to give Xisto time to settle down and sort itself out with the new system before trying to comment too much on the price of the hosting plans. I mean, we've barely had a chance to get through the first month so far, nevermind see how the prices compare further down the line...

i agree with kobra to a certain extent and i will answer that question for you. although technically the webhosting and trap are two diferent entities entirely, i would rather support webhosting that brought us this community. it's as simple as that. when i began to love trap17, i began to love the work and dedication on the backend including the vision with incorporating computing host xisto which i wanted to eventually incorporate computinghost as my domain and hosting providor. it's not really a matter of finding the best host. hosting is a dime a dozen.

so to post something as kobra did, it's making a statement so that maybe something has been overlooked in the changes that needs to continue to be incorporated.

i personally like the two plans but i think two plans are limiting the needs of others. those who can't afford or need unlimited everything and those who have a hard time picking and choosing what they want or those who just don't know the different of anything to pick and choose(computer/internet illiterate...or semi).

Well I would think that if members are making honest posts like kobra did and a lot more of them it would seem xisto will listen and they usually do take member suggestions and what not. I would think that after MyCent has completely been incorporated and at least 90% bug free I think OpaQue will concentrate on Computinghost and make it a lot better. Although I did here from a known source that there are plans to add a few more hosting packages to MyCents, but I do not a time line for that and so I would wait out the computinghost side of things for a few months and see what happens.

goodie goodie! can't wait!

I disagree. I was with computinghost for about 3 months, and did indeed like their 3.33/month plan. But, by saying that, I love how with Mycents you are now able to pay for some of your hosting bill with posts, and some of it with money. This makes me want to post a lot more, and helps me pay my monthly hosting bill. Now I can actually afford something like a VPS for 20/month, whereas without Mycent I wouldn't be able to sustain 20 on my own. Now, I'm most likely going to post half of what it costs for a VPS, and pay the other half via paypal or credit card.

And Kobara, seeing you have almost 400 posts, you most likley made around 9 or 10 dollars via Mycent for all of your past posts. This means it most likley saving you some money for your hosting plan, which is still the same as it was before.

Yea, seeing that things like the unlimited databases and email accounts (which were 99 I think before) have been taken away didn't make me too happy either, and sort of worried me into switching to the new system. But since it is a mandatory switch, I've decided to go for it today.

I can understand limiting some of the features, but to a single database seems a bit much to me. There are lots of things that are available to use in the cpanel, like forums, guest books, galleries, blogs, and that kind of stuff that each take a new database to use.

I had a few of these things used experimentally on my trap17 site (not really fully live, just playing around with them to see what I could do), but when I signed up for the new logic plan, I've had to either delete these or pay up extra dollars for it. Since I wasn't really using them right now anyway, I decided not to pay the extra, but if I did have several of these things on my site it would really hike the cost up for something that I got for free before. That part I didn't like. So, I deleted the few databases that I had been messing around with. I was hoping to implement some of these fully in the future, but for now, I guess they'll remain on hold.

Now, it's not something that makes me want to leave computinghost, because I think they are a great company and offer excellent value and service for my dollar, but it puts a bit of a sad spin on things to see an extra price tag being attached to some things that were not being restricted before.

That being said, I'm also really really happy to see the extra features that you can order now to boost your website. Things like extra space and bandwidth that weren't available before now on the free subdomains can be easily purchased for a little extra money. That I think is amazing, and makes me really happy.

I can understand the need to limit features like databases, but I also doubt that most people came close to using all of the ones that were available to them. So in the end, it probably evened itself out at a much lower number. But still, if you are going to offer many Fantastico programs inside our cPanel, perhaps the default limit for databases should be raised to 5 or 10 instead of just one, because just the one doesn't allow the average person to get the benefits of trying out the database applications on their website without shelling out the extra cash before hand. It's great to have these Fantastico features, but without a certain number of databases available, you can't really use any of them.

Sorry for the rant, I still really like idea of the new system And thanks for constantly trying to make your services better.

I do understand partly where you are coming from. In terms of the amount of features paid clients might be using, yes I know that this is very noticeable. But, I think in the long run it will help Computinghost out. Think about it, the Logic plan basically lets you buy the features you need, and let's you let go of those that are not needed. In other means, you are only buying what you need, and you know for a fact that CH is not overselling. (Not saying they were in the past, but just making a generalized statement here. ) Also, let's say you are running low on cash, and really need to keep your hosting up. Well now you have the option to post for the reaming funds so you are able to catch up with your payments, and not get your account suspended. So yes, I do feel you are losing some features if you are a paid client, but in the long wrong I think Mycent is the better system that trap17 and CH can use.