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Zorkaplex
post Dec 1 2005, 02:37 AM
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What is everyones stance on cloning and why. In my health class today we had a big disscution on this.

I think for some perposess it should be illegal like organ harvesting or medical testing.
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post Dec 1 2005, 03:55 AM
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Well forst what's your stand? But I thing that full body cloning, not good, who would want an army of bill gates running around? Not me that's for sure. But small tissue cloning would be great, just think of what you could fix, "need a kidney? give my 7 days and I'll grow you one." (This statement does not indicate an actual offer)
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post Dec 1 2005, 04:20 AM
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I don't think you can "clone" a kidney, persay. That's more related to stem cell research instead of cloning.

For cloning, I think it's all right to clone animals and things like that. Heck, we breed the animals and use all these hormones and things inside the animal feed. It would be better to just clone the animals instead of using so many hormones, I would think. But, I'm against human cloning because it would just be creepy if a service was created to "revive the dead".
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post Dec 1 2005, 04:27 AM
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i dont think cloning should be done on the entire body so a whole new person is made but instead like they can clone a heart od organ so that you wont have to pay millions for organs.
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post Dec 1 2005, 07:13 PM
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hm im not so sure about cloning. well i think i wouldent be for cloneing humans. maybe just get a really nice fat cow and pig and clone them many times to get the meat. once cloneing becomes economical enough for there to b e a profit in that kind of food solution. There was an article here some time ago that said somehting about a printer that could print human organs and all that kind of stuff. i think that goes into the direction of what conret is talking about. just clone certain types of organs to fit in with sick people.

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post Dec 1 2005, 08:40 PM
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Ummm i would say i am against cloning. I do belivie we can find a use for cloning eventually so i am not saying it is evil or anything. Also the government has banned cloning but rich people could still fund thier own reasearch without the government knowing!! Dosent that just push your buttons! Plus if cloning was like you could live forever it would be totally unfair to the lower class!
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post Dec 1 2005, 10:00 PM
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I think we should start by outlining the issue. I think the big problem with cloning are some of the unethical applications for it. Namely, cloning a human being.

One reason for not cloning human beings is because of the "soul" factor. If you cloned yourself, who or what soul would be in the clone? Would your soul share two bodies? These are some of the questions that are raised when speaking on a spiritual point of view.

Moving on to something more "real", we come to the fact that a human clone can have many possible applications. The first thing that comes to mind for most people is "immortality". Cloning yourself means that you can have a "bag of spare parts" that will be available when you get into trouble. Say you have a heart attack and you need a transplant, your clone will have the perfect donar heart. Is this murder? Is this acceptable?

Eventually, it might be possible to actually transplant your brain into a clone body and then you will be young again. (This is the true fountain of youth). What implications does this have on society? Would this mean over population? Are clones people? Should they be used like this?

If you look at cloning animals, none of these issues arise. This is because animals usually aren't considered to have a soul. It is acceptable to kill animals (to eat, for medical reasons, etc.). cloning can be good in this case because you can clone endangered species or even extinct species a la jurassic park. This is probably a benefit to society.

For me, I think cloning is the way to go. With all technologies there are always good and bad things. It is how we use them that makes it good or bad. The technology itself is not bad.
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post Dec 1 2005, 10:58 PM
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I think what really scares people isn't that they could clone humans but that they might make a super clone race. Kindof like the second foundation in Issac Assimov's Foundation series. I think it's just another step in evolution before everyone is immortal and genetically so superior we are all equal, so I'm fine for it, better for my (add many grands here) kids. Plus, reproduction is basically the random mixing and copying of two different existing gene patterns. All we add is some control, I'm all for it.
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post Dec 5 2005, 05:20 PM
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I have reasons for being both for and against the cloning. It can help in matters like replacing someone's kidneys without the need of spending too much time and effort in repairing, when usually this is not possible in the first place.

However, I don't feel it's right that we should be cloning a real human. If we clone a person, then it's like having multiple people of the same person and soul.

It'd be just like those programs that show on the television, whereby a scientist or character gets cloned and causes havoc. It would just be so unrealistic and cause shock. All things have bad side-effects as well as the good.

These are my opinions anyway.