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> Do You Believe In Life After Death? What Are Your Personal Feelings About It?
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post Oct 25 2007, 09:02 AM
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There are aguments on the philosophical, scientific and religious sides of life after death and not one person can come to a definitive conclusion. Of course not! Nobody has ever REALLY come back from the dead to tell us what happened to him/her after they died. Every argument is speculation.

Every religion has it's own teachings of death and the hereafter and I don't feel this is something that anyone should argue with. We are taught a specific belief and nobody should ever tell us we are wrong because it is our way and we are entitled to that way.

Personally, I feel that after we die our soul comes back in the form of another person (by the way this is NOT what I was taught but how I've grown to think through my lifetime). We come back to make up for any wrongs we did in our previous life. It sounds ridiculous I know but this is the way I feel. There have been times when I've met a stranger and just looking in their eyes had the feeling that I knew them before and they actually had ways about them that made me feel I knew who it was. Strange, yes, I agree but that's the way it is!

What are your feelings about life after death? Does your religious upbringing have anything to do with it?
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post Oct 25 2007, 09:57 AM
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By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return.


Nothing. Just nothing. We're organisms on this rock, flying around a star, trying to answer the question. We don't remember anything before birth, so why should we remember things after death? There was nothing before birth, no heaven or such, so why should there be after death.

Just an endless space, filled with nothing but darkness. Because there is nothing. No time, no space...nothing.

And nothing is not to be afraid of. I spent an infinite time before my birth not existing, so why should I fear and infinite time after my death?
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post Oct 25 2007, 01:42 PM
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ya man. I believe in "Life After Death". Not in the exact crude sense... but more in philosophical way.
When people remember you for your deeds then it means you are still living among them.

This again depends on what you do when you were living. If you have done something worth mentioning and have made yourself influential among people, and you created some difference or bought about some change in some lives... you will be remembered. This i believe is "Life after death."

If you want me to give an apt answer for your question... i myself have many doubts regarding this... i get totally confused when i start thinking about life, death, its purpose, present, past, future... etc.

So live this moment and enjoy life. smile.gif


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post Oct 25 2007, 08:16 PM
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I can't explain it well - maybe.

If there is a life after the death, all these parts of the humans (the souls) must to go to a place, but where is that place? And the people are created from other humans, and they are getting part of the genetic material both from the mother and from the father. So the souls are appearing every day!

One part of the believing there is life after the death is that the soul gets from the previews live. But I don't know how this could happen - the new soul is just created, and how I said it gets genetical material from the father and the mother. So for me, that theory partically falls. Maybe the people are just old souls, which came from previews lives, and the new genetical material is getting over the old one. But it is unclear for me by now sad.gif

Also the other questions is, how so much "variants" of souls could get at one place, how large could be that place?
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post Oct 25 2007, 08:44 PM
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I believe that there is life after death.
It is not because of a religion... it is because of my thought.

My thought being... what purpose do we have if there IS no life after death?

Now, this brings up a whole new area on the purpose of our lives, which is a
whole other discussion in itself. But sometimes i stop to think... if there is no
life after death, then why are we living in the first place. What is the use of living
here? At least, the way i see it, if there IS life after death, it gives us something to
look forward to (don't get me wrong... not that anyone is looking forward to death).

Now, this also brings on thoughts of a judgmental system, where our action's on
earth will be judged after this life, to filter where we go in the next life. This particular
concept gives purpose to life, and alleviates some of the fear of death. We instinctively fear
what we do not know... but this concept allows us a little insight on what's to come, so
naturally we don;t fear it as much.

And what about reincarnation? If this is the case, there is life after death... a sort of
continuous life. But again... what is the purpose of this continuous life then? Is it just
to try to better one's self? A sort of self-restoration?

The fact is... we may never know.
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post Oct 26 2007, 06:59 AM
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That which we call a soul is merely the higher functions of our brains, brought about by electrochemical impulses shooting around our synapses. I don't support reductionism, and there's definitely a gestalt aspect to consciousness that can't (yet?) fully be explained by recourse to the sciences of chemistry and physics. However, without the active brain, we have nothing. Imagine if Shakespeare's plays (or Coldplay's songs, etc., whatever inflates your dinghy) were stored on hard drives round the world and nowhere else. They bring us indescribable thoughts and emotions. Now, a nasty virus wipes them all out. So all along, we were fundamentally dependent on microscopic, magnetically aligned grains for our art and culture; but by no means could we say they represented them at any "soulful" level.

Decartes wrestled with all this and came up with the mind-body dualism. Since then, the idea of a ghost in the machine has come to seem a little quaint and old-fashioned, however we persist with an oxymoronic belief in life after death. Perhaps Decartes would have benefited from something like a spiritual OSI model to explain how the world might work at different levels.

Why isn't it enough that this life is all we get? Does the thought of an eternity without existence fill us with dread? Do we think that we're unfairly treated in this life and hope for something better in the next, like all those earth-inheriting meek folk? You'd better enjoy it while you can; like a toilet roll, it gets faster as you get closer to the end ...

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post Oct 26 2007, 07:49 AM
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QUOTE(THUMP @ Oct 25 2007, 05:02 AM) *
Personally, I feel that after we die our soul comes back in the form of another person (by the way this is NOT what I was taught but how I've grown to think through my lifetime). We come back to make up for any wrongs we did in our previous life. It sounds ridiculous I know but this is the way I feel. There have been times when I've met a stranger and just looking in their eyes had the feeling that I knew them before and they actually had ways about them that made me feel I knew who it was. Strange, yes, I agree but that's the way it is!

If we are brought back to make up for past-life wrongs, then that means two things: 1. There is a force greater than us that is in control, and 2. this force has established absolute morality. For if morality (right or wrong) was relative, and because people tend to believe that all their ways are right (not wrong), then there would be no need to come back to life, for there would be nothing to make up for in the first place. biggrin.gif

But to add on to this, what would happen if there is no planet Earth to go back to? What if everything that was destined to fade away has already faded away? How, then, would one be able to make up for past sins? And what if one creates more sins in this new lifetime? They may be bound to an endless cycle. And what happens if one bears no sin in their previous life, where to are they to go? Or what if one finishes paying for their past sins, where to then (assuming this is possible)? Have you gone this far in thought before? tongue.gif

One more thing, your post implies that the person would indeed remember their past sins, however, they can't even or barely remember an old face. How, then, would they be able to know of their past sins?

QUOTE(Liam_CF @ Oct 25 2007, 05:57 AM) *
Nothing. Just nothing. We're organisms on this rock, flying around a star, trying to answer the question. We don't remember anything before birth, so why should we remember things after death? [1]There was nothing before birth, no heaven or such, so why should there be after death. [...] [2]I spent an infinite time before my birth not existing, so why should I fear and infinite time after my death?

[1]If there was nothing before your birth, then how were you born?
[2]If you can waste time being nothing, then how can you possibly be nothing in the first place? For if you have the ability to waste time, then you must therefore exist.

QUOTE(Seidhrith @ Oct 25 2007, 04:44 PM) *
(don't get me wrong... not that anyone is looking forward to death).

On the contrary, many who are placed in hard times may seek death just so the pain may end. But the question may come up: if they sought an end, would they want things to start back up again? Does a new life bring no pain?

QUOTE(pointybirds @ Oct 26 2007, 02:59 AM) *
However, without the active brain, we have nothing.

But that's to say that you're only indulging yourself in the present and maybe also the past. It's the distant future where the activity of the brain may prove to be unnecessary.

QUOTE(THUMP @ Oct 25 2007, 05:02 AM) *
What are your feelings about life after death? Does your religious upbringing have anything to do with it?

Although there are two ways to consider this, as varalu has mentioned, my feelings about life after death are quite real. I wouldn't necessarily say that my religious upbringing had as much to do with it as my questioning to things have. However, i have found my religion to be more realistic when it comes to life after death. When i look at things, i find it hard not to look at it this way. smile.gif
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post Oct 26 2007, 01:40 PM
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I agree with Varalu in such that you have a new life when you begin to be an inspiration to many and not that you have another life where it's religious.
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