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htdefiant
post Mar 10 2006, 01:55 AM
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I had a chat with IPS in November 05...I wish I could find the e-mail. They said that me using IPB 2.0 Trial opensource was fully legal. They said that I did not have to register with IPS, only notified me that 2.0 trial has some security issues. Because of that discussion, my synagogue continues to use IPB 2.0. Again, it is not pirated, it is fully legal, and does not need any licence. I would like to clear up that issue.
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post Mar 10 2006, 02:47 AM
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A detailed notification was sent to sales and billing of Invision Power Board support line. Please check back later for an official answer.

Thank you.
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post Mar 10 2006, 02:50 AM
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can anyone tell me where to download version 2.0 trial?..

did they disabled any features in the trial version?.. just wondering....
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post Mar 10 2006, 02:52 AM
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DogEater008... you are setting your self up in my postion, please EVERYONE check this out. http://www.trap17.com/forums/accused-hacking-t34433.html That briefly explains a lot off stuff, and don't do anything till you get an offical word like BuffaloHelp says!
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post Mar 10 2006, 03:02 AM
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can anyone tell me where to download version 2.0 trial?..

did they disabled any features in the trial version?.. just wondering....



Not easy to find.. But I managed to anyway...

Here's the link for the free Invision Power Board 2.0.0 Final Trial (Unlimited Trial)
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According to this website, this version would be the last trial version of the Invision Power Board family. Meaning in future, there might not be any trial versions available for download again, due to the fact that people are using the boards without proper licenses.

EDIT: I've accidently found another download link laugh.gif
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Since you didn't know what I was about to post, I will not issue a warning. Removed links.


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post Mar 10 2006, 11:51 AM
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In regards to my questions to IPS, this is an email response back from the head sales department:

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1) Q: Are you still offering Invision Power Board trial version?

A: No, we no longer provide a free trial version of IPB other than our
limited Live Demo.

2) Q: Where and how would a person go about obtaining this trial
version?

A: No longer provided. See A1.

3) Q: How would you classify past trial versions--legal or illegal?

A: If you downloaded the trial version prior to IPS halting it's
release it is legal to use on a trial basis. In the event that you decide to
use the software full time, therfore no longer being a trial, you are
required to purchase a full license.

If the software was downloaded from a source other then IPS it is
illegal to install and use.

The original trial had limits of a certain number of posts or members
etc. Unfortunately, I do not remember what those limits were but I would
say that someone who has been using the "Trial" version for more than a
few months is someone who intends to use it on a permanent basis and
should therefore purchase a license for use.


4) Q: If a person obtained a trial version through Invision Power
Board's website and has it, can that person still use it today?

See my previous answer. Any trial versions used on a permanent basis
should be licensed.

5: Q: Search engines are showing places that can download past trial
versions, including 2.1.x (which leads to your site). Is this legal?

No it is not. We would urge you and thank you in advance to report any
such sites here: http://www.invisionpower.com/piracytracker/piracy.php

Regards,

Debbie Ruff
IPS Customer Relations
Peterborough, UK
Invision Power Services, Inc.

The question comes down to the underlined part of the answer: is it still legal to use a trial version if I downloaded from IPS directly back in the days? The official answer is YES. However, the answer continues to say that if you had it for few months you should purchase a license. This means that it wasn't meant for to be used after the trial period or the limitation has reached.

So what defines a trial period? Is it from the day you downloaded, let's say May 2005 till July 2005? Is it from the time of the installation until the limitation or from the version release date and few months thereafter? The definition I found from the web is a time when an item can be tested but did not specify when the actual time measure begins--the time of obtain and ownership or the time of actual usage. Therefore, I am going with the popular acceptance of "from the time of installation." However, this is with a condition. As the reply from IPS states that if you have it for few months or so, you should purchase it. This will be the only condition which I will not suspend any hosting account with a trial version installed.

But, if OpaQue receives one little comment about your forum's validity at a first sight your hosting will be terminated. I'm not about to lose my hosting and the rest of Trap17 because of another's disregard for the copyright law.

Okay? Everyone happy? smile.gif

PS. My apologies go out to MaineFishing45 for his inconveniences during this deposition.
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post Mar 10 2006, 01:39 PM
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PS. My apologies go out to MaineFishing45 for his inconveniences during this deposition.


I told you that I knew what I was talking about tongue.gif. So that means I can get my board back and still have time to buy the licensed version, and then upgrade my files right? smile.gif I think so, so I will get my board back up ASAP when I get home and will PM you when I am purchasing the licensed version, so that there well be no legal issues. Thanks BuffaloHELP.
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post Mar 10 2006, 01:56 PM
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Ok...but lets keep in mind it is still legal. I did download it when it was legal so I am not required to get a licence. IPS recommends this to they can sell you more stuff. Note: you cannot share the 2.0.0 trial files with anyone, that is illegal.
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post Mar 10 2006, 02:29 PM
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Yes we all do know that. But what could happen is that Trap17 can get reported by some wacko.gif (to be nice) and say blah blah blah they pirated a copy... and probably Invision gives you some benifit for reporting people, then they go straight to the source www.trap17.com or Xisto Corp and say well "We haves this report..." why are you pirating our software and da ta da. We are going to sue you, and well we get shutdown, and everyone is pissed!

Or they take our license away, and say Good Bye Board, and we can't run IPB on these Xisto servers.