Vistaish

I am currently running Windows XP Professional and 2 different flavors of Linux on my box. I've heard lots about the new Vista release from alot of people and I was wondering if anyone could point out anything seriously retarded about it. I would like to upgrade and be up with the times but even as XP was the big buzz for a while I stuck hardcore with Windows 2000 Professional and Linux for a long time before upgrading. I thought XP sucked and I was for the most part right, Windows 2000 suited me enough and worked just fine for me. So is there anyone out there who could point out serious flaws in Windows Vista to me? And please don't rant about how insecure it is, everyone knows Microsoft sucks with security.

Okay... I'll tell you couple of ugly things about vista. First of all as you probably expected me to say.. - hardware resources consumption. My Pentium D820 2.8GHz with 1 gb of memory is screaming under vista. Secondly, Vista is still not compatible with a huge amount of programs. Vista's Aero effects are only available to the DX9.0 supporting graphics cards, meaning you won't see those crystal clear transparencies and stuff like that on your older graphics card. Finally, vista by no means the fastest OS ever made by Micrososft as they calim... and you'll find out why unless you have a quad core with 4GB of memory and 2 8800GTX's in SLi

Other major flaw, aside the fact that it requires 3000€ machine to run it is, and I rant about it all the time (I know I'm boring, but it realy gets to me) is the all Trusted Computing "technology"... With TCPA, every time you upgrade a computer, you need to contact Micro$oft, and tell them "Hello Mr. Micro$oft, I just bought new memory module, and installed it, can you please activate my Windows?", and good Mr. Micro$oft activates your Windows... I supose in the future, when majority of population switches to Vista, they can start charging for new activation... Even 20€ would keep them satisfied... And you won't be able to do a thing.. Second, you won't be able to install hardware, that isn't TCPA compliant... That means that if you buy a memory module, from TwinMOS or some other company that isn't in the TCPA, you won't be able to use it! So, you'd have to buy much more expensive module, from say,IBM! I also read about plans, that even Internet access would be restricted based on TCPA... Something about servers rejecting requests that don't contain valid TCPA code or something...

That is the single, biggest con I have to using Vista... Ever... I'm already in process of switching to Linux...

By the way, I saw a video on youtube, displaying Ubuntu 6.10 with XGL and Beryl... I started drooling, literaly... Does anyone know what the specs for that computrer were? One thing is for sure... Windows will NEVER be able to do that... Unles you have 4 quad-core CPU's, with each core running on 5GHz, and liquid nitrogen cooled

There are a few downfalls to Windows Vista, the biggest being program compatibilty. There are a number of programs that are not exactly compatibile with Vista. Second downfall would have to be the amount of resources that it takes up. And the third is that there is alot of hardware that is not working properly due to drivers that were not created propely and give major lagging. Other than that it is just another os. Just remember that they say, Windows Vista is just windows xp with a bunch of bells and wissles.

Kubuntu rocks. And if you must use XP use Astonshell to jazz up the desktop.

Well if you are already using linux why do you need windows in fact. I would agree with the other on this one one and maybe the biggest flaw of vista is resource consumption but there are some more bugs like the thing to type password as if you want to run some script as power user it is just boring and so on. List might get long over longer period of time.

Otherwise I really don't see problem why would you switch to Vista if you have linux up and running as most files from widows are compatible with other files in linux and even new file extensions which came with the office 2007 will be probably available soon for linux users also if they are not already.

Before you make a decision to choose windows vista make sure your system resources are good enough. I have a 1 GB ram
computer without any external graphic card . When i tried vista , the aero effects were not working for me. But when i borrowed a Geforce 256 k card from my pal , the aero effect was pretty good and worth a try,

If you can afford to provide the system resources that vista needs, i guess it would definitely pay back with perfomance. The search feature is pretty cool with indexing made available, and also the level of security has to be increased quite a lot.

Also, i heard the licenses for vista are pretty cheap. so , you need not worry about burning your pockets too much incase you want a legal copy for your machine.

first of all before you change to vista, beware some stuff

- almost every old program you got will have compability problems on vista (you'll get enough warnings from vista while installing the programs)
- the prize for vista isn't something to laugh with, from expensive to even more expensive
- before being able to run vista smoothly or with bit of lag, your pc has to be somewhat new in the line of pc's from today
a pc that is around the 4a5 years old will not be able to run vista smoothly, unless you composed it yourself

and be very open for a lot of errors and crashes of programs that you might encounter while running vista (personal experience ^^)

i got a brand new pc from 1 year ago (2 gig ram, 4,4 ghz cpu 64bit, Geforce 7600GS) and got vista business, still i see some errors and slow downs from vista while starting up some programs that didn't slow down xp at all
but heh i guess it's my fault ^^ too much background programs

still i would prefer linux about windows, because of one major point ==> ERRORS in the system, almost NO crashes and a very good system for running on servers

and the major difference between windows xp and windows vista is => usage of a lot more hardware nothing else

I would like to point out that server systems are hole different thing than home users we were discussing about in this topic.

Also You have to consider how safe is program in which everyone can take a look by mere typing in the search engine. Because if someone sits long enough and wants to hack your server he will certainly find loophole in the linux based system also.

True... But the one trying to find a loophole, must be a computer guru, in order to mess around with Linux, whereas, in order to create a malicious program for Windows, you can attend a 21day programming course, and voila...

People forget, that linux was made from ground up, with security and networking in mind, whereas, windows was not built that way... Also, there are many indications that Vista uses a lot of old XP code, and that it is not true that they have written it from scratch... Still many security holes dating back from windows 95... I don't call that responsible programming...

Besides, Linux distributions have advanced significantly compared to several yeasr ago, and more and more distributions are more and more user friendly, that very soon, windows will be out of the game... Take a look at Ubuntu 6.10, with Beryl... It's a 3D cube desktop... It runs smoothly on a 1.3GHz machine, with 512MB RAM, and GeForce 6600 with 128M RAM... While playing a movie, and mp3's... Desktop is ofcourse transparent, and you can see movie from behind - inverted! And look what's required for Vista alone to operate... Ages away from Linux...

I won't even talk about windows price which is measured in hundreds of dollars, whereas, linux is free...