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Post #1 post Dec 6 2005, 10:02 AM
ok, i am not going to claim i know it all here, but i will tell you i am a bit of an expert. I've owned a computer since i was 14 years old, i taught myself 3 different programing languages before i was 16, cracking software code and hacking into phone companies while popping zits on my forehead. I had a 300 baud modem before anyone ever heard of the world wide web. i'm not interested in that stuff anymore....

what i am interested in now is making money on the internet. for the past 3 years, all i have been doing is stying up late at night RESEARCHING how i or anyone can succeed in making money on the internet. is it easy? HECK NO! there is alot involved! you need to know about what to sell, or affiliate programs, and then internet marketing and email marketing. you need to learn about traffic building and website promotion, web design and development. THEN you need to know alot about search engine optimization so your website ranks well. pay per click advertising WORKS and you need to know about that and other ways that work. blogging and rss is relatively new and you need to know what these things are and anything else that will come out in the future that will work well. not only do you need to learn this stuff, but if you are just starting out and have little cash, you need to find free webhosting and domain names, a free autoresponder and a way to get free leads to promote your business.

i don't want to scare anyone, but there is ALOT to learn before ever considering making money on the internet. it can be done thought and it's being done every single second of the day! you just need to know how.

my whole intention and purpose in starting this topic is to SHOW YOU HOW. I am tired of seeing posts that have to do with nothing programs with little income potential. they post a link and THAT'S it! they offer no help in how to promote and succeed! that's going to change soon....at least within this thread that i have created.

my own past experience on the net only involves belonging to about 10 main affiliate programs i've promoted to make my money (around $3,000+ per month) which i found at clickbank. i had to quit doing that about 4 months ago because i recent moved cross country. I was born and raised in california and now reside in missouri. it's been rough and spending my first thanksgiving and soon to be first christmas and new year without friends and family is a little depressing. even though i made enough money to make me happy with click bank and a few affiliate programs through them, i decided i would create my own website, my own product, and include 1 main affiliate program that not only has more income potential, but is in an area that i am interested in and dedicated to support and very friendly. i am combining all my knowledge and research in to helping others achieve something GREAT....and that is making money on the internet. believe me when i say it's GREAT because i've done it. those 4-6 sales on average made me $3,000+. i only got around $20 per sale but they do add up. my first sale, i got SO EXCITED! it was a GREAT feeling! i still remember it and will never forget it. i was addicted to coming online every hour JUST to check if i made a sale yet, and when i did, i had to brag about it.

ok- now that i've decided to put my reputation on the line and soon, put my money where my mouth is, stay tuned....whoever wants to build an income online needs to keep in touch with this thread. i will be posting every day on it. you will see the responses from people i've helped RIGHT HERE. if i get a poor response here, it will ruin my name and reputation and i'm not willing to do that so i will make every effort to help all i am able. i will be posting a link to my site soon. i just started making a website about a month ago and is almost ready for the public(thank god, because my savings has been dwindling since my move to missouri and i don't have a 9-5 job here....nor will i EVER). i also have to create a couple pages dedicated for this thread to offer more extensive help. until i do that, i will hold off posting the link.

I promise though that i will give 100% full effort to those willing to learn and able to follow simple instructions, and have the patience and time to build their business on the itnernet. i will show you how to do this FREE to start and then show you how wise it will be to reinvest some of the income you've made....putting it right back in to your business. Are you interested? I know you are if you've read this far so stay tuned!

-aaron webb

p.s.- i don't know how many people read this forum topic, but to give me an idea of how many people want to learn, send me an email here at trap 17. you wont get a reply, but it will allow me to prepare if there are more than 10 people and i may have to limit the # of people i plan to work with on a personal level if the # is more than 10(which i don't suspect it will be that high). it will also show me who is motivated enough to doing something as simple as writing an email to me. it's THOSE PEOPLE i want to work with on a personal level, but most everything i have to say will be posted publically for all to see and learn and enjoy!

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Post #2 post Dec 6 2005, 11:08 AM
Now this is intresting, not to be a ruiner but every like 8th e-mail i get dies something similar, like adding ad's to your website or doing something like amazon etc. this all to make some cash. I do understand that is the way to gain a profit online, like Google adwords or something on those basis. I would really like to hear for what you have to say as I'm truly looking at new ways and differant opertunities.

Thanks for helping others and myself achieve more online. cool.gif
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Post #3 post Dec 6 2005, 10:57 PM
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Thanks for helping others and myself achieve more online.  cool.gif
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No need to thank me right now, but it does make me smile because i know everyone has an opportunity at their fignertips right now by reading this thread. even those who are not yet trap17 members, and i will accept the thank you's AFTER each person has made more on the net than they ever have. i am going to provide the resources AND the specific steps to succeed.

FOR EVERYONE READING THIS THREAD

I will be including trap17 in to my teaching steps for the free hosting. although there are many free hosting sites out there(some with no ads), I like the format trap17 has put together to include a forum. a community of member to come together to read about and talk about anything under the sun. the users are friendly and the mods/owners are fair.

so with that said, anyone interested in getting started early, i want to suggest that you post at least once a day anywhere on the forums to build your credits up to at least 30 so you can get your upgraded hosting account. DO NOT post irrelevant topics or 1-2 line posts just to build your credits up. have some meaning behind your posts so that you don't get warned from the mods OR worse, get banned from trap17. READ THE FORUM GUIDLINES if you have any questions, but if you follow what i just said, and act responsible and respectfull, you will have no problems. any GUEST not yet a trap17 member, i urge you to sign up NOW and get started in earning your free hosting. you will need this later, i promise!

you will all need hosting! trap17 is free and this is the site i will be recomending. if you already have a website or hosting account either here or somewhere else, you are one step ahead of the game.

keep checking back on this thread for more updated information. i know some of you are eager to learn more and get started!

-aaron
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Post #4 post Dec 7 2005, 05:27 AM
I have launched a website titled "2search" the main goal is to provide to visitors the option of searching in multiple search engines without changing the url. The database is in javascript and its fast and reliable. I need help about several topics in order to expose it to potencial visitors can you help me out?

The site is Link changed to google rolleyes.gif

[note=mayank]The link you gave contains links for cracks, warez...I know they are just search engines..but anything related to that is not allowed over here.[/note]

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Post #5 post Dec 10 2005, 10:22 AM
QUOTE(calkid @ Dec 6 2005, 10:02 AM)
ok, i am not going to claim i know it all here, but i will tell you i am a bit of an expert. I've owned a computer since i was 14 years old, i taught myself 3 different programing languages before i was 16, cracking software code and hacking into phone companies while popping zits on my forehead. I had a 300 baud modem before anyone ever heard of the world wide web. i'm not interested in that stuff anymore....

what i am interested in now is making money on the internet. for the past 3 years, all i have been doing is stying up late at night RESEARCHING how i or anyone can succeed in making money on the internet. is it easy? HECK NO! there is alot involved! you need to know about what to sell, or affiliate programs, and then internet marketing and email marketing. you need to learn about traffic building and website promotion, web design and development. THEN you need to know alot about search engine optimization so your website ranks well. pay per click advertising WORKS and you need to know about that and other ways that work. blogging and rss is relatively new and you need to know what these things are and anything else that will come out in the future that will work well. not only do you need to learn this stuff, but if you are just starting out and have little cash, you need to find free webhosting and domain names, a free autoresponder and a way to get free leads to promote your business.

i don't want to scare anyone, but there is ALOT to learn before ever considering making money on the internet. it can be done thought and it's being done every single second of the day! you just need to know how.

my whole intention and purpose in starting this topic is to SHOW YOU HOW. I am tired of seeing posts that have to do with nothing programs with little income potential. they post a link and THAT'S it! they offer no help in how to promote and succeed! that's going to change soon....at least within this thread that i have created.

my own past experience on the net only involves belonging to about 10 main affiliate programs i've promoted to make my money (around $3,000+ per month) which i found at clickbank. i had to quit doing that about 4 months ago because i recent moved cross country. I was born and raised in california and now reside in missouri. it's been rough and spending my first thanksgiving and soon to be first christmas and new year without friends and family is a little depressing. even though i made enough money to make me happy with click bank and a few affiliate programs through them, i decided i would create my own website, my own product, and include 1 main affiliate program that not only has more income potential, but is in an area that i am interested in and dedicated to support and very friendly. i am combining all my knowledge and research in to helping others achieve something GREAT....and that is making money on the internet. believe me when i say it's GREAT because i've done it. those 4-6 sales on average made me $3,000+. i only got around $20 per sale but they do add up. my first sale, i got SO EXCITED! it was a GREAT feeling! i still remember it and will never forget it. i was addicted to coming online every hour JUST to check if i made a sale yet, and when i did, i had to brag about it.

ok- now that i've decided to put my reputation on the line and soon, put my money where my mouth is, stay tuned....whoever wants to build an income online needs to keep in touch with this thread. i will be posting every day on it. you will see the responses from people i've helped RIGHT HERE. if i get a poor response here, it will ruin my name and reputation and i'm not willing to do that so i will make every effort to help all i am able. i will be posting a link to my site soon. i just started making a website about a month ago and is almost ready for the public(thank god, because my savings has been dwindling since my move to missouri and i don't have a 9-5 job here....nor will i EVER). i also have to create a couple pages dedicated for this thread to offer more extensive help. until i do that, i will hold off posting the link.

I promise though that i will give 100% full effort to those willing to learn and able to follow simple instructions, and have the patience and time to build their business on the itnernet. i will show you how to do this FREE to start and then show you how wise it will be to reinvest some of the income you've made....putting it right back in to your business. Are you interested? I know you are if you've read this far so stay tuned!

-aaron webb

p.s.- i don't know how many people read this forum topic, but to give me an idea of how many people want to learn, send me an email here at trap 17. you wont get a reply, but it will allow me to prepare if there are more than 10 people and i may have to limit the # of people i plan to work with on a personal level if the # is more than 10(which i don't suspect it will be that high). it will also show me who is motivated enough to doing something as simple as writing an email to me. it's THOSE PEOPLE i want to work with on a personal level, but most everything i have to say will be posted publically for all to see and learn and enjoy!
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the same here i have been trying to find out the various different ways of advertising on the web but i use googl;e adsence its a lot simpler than what u have put in ur post
all you have to do is fill out ur bank or paypal details and when you get somebody looking at your site and they see the link to the others when they click on the link i get money its relly simple
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Post #6 post Dec 11 2005, 01:17 AM
What I have leaarned through the years is that in there are two things in the modern world that sell: 1) Physical work, 2) Creative work. For programmers at home creativity is all that counts. With enuf knowledge on a programming language its time to put your creativity to the test and make something new and unique that will ctch peoplee's attention. Flikr is a good example or maybe still more unique is : http://www.milliondollarhomepage.com/ . So I'll say that creativity can make money on the net.
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Post #7 post Dec 11 2005, 04:09 PM
QUOTE(calkid @ Dec 6 2005, 06:02 AM)
ok, i am not going to claim i know it all here, but i will tell you i am a bit of an expert. I've owned a computer since i was 14 years old, i taught myself 3 different programing languages before i was 16, cracking software code and hacking into phone companies while popping zits on my forehead. I had a 300 baud modem before anyone ever heard of the world wide web. i'm not interested in that stuff anymore....

what i am interested in now is making money on the internet. for the past 3 years, all i have been doing is stying up late at night RESEARCHING how i or anyone can succeed in making money on the internet. is it easy? HECK NO! there is alot involved! you need to know about what to sell, or affiliate programs, and then internet marketing and email marketing. you need to learn about traffic building and website promotion, web design and development. THEN you need to know alot about search engine optimization so your website ranks well. pay per click advertising WORKS and you need to know about that and other ways that work. blogging and rss is relatively new and you need to know what these things are and anything else that will come out in the future that will work well. not only do you need to learn this stuff, but if you are just starting out and have little cash, you need to find free webhosting and domain names, a free autoresponder and a way to get free leads to promote your business.

i don't want to scare anyone, but there is ALOT to learn before ever considering making money on the internet. it can be done thought and it's being done every single second of the day! you just need to know how.

my whole intention and purpose in starting this topic is to SHOW YOU HOW. I am tired of seeing posts that have to do with nothing programs with little income potential. they post a link and THAT'S it! they offer no help in how to promote and succeed! that's going to change soon....at least within this thread that i have created.

my own past experience on the net only involves belonging to about 10 main affiliate programs i've promoted to make my money (around $3,000+ per month) which i found at clickbank. i had to quit doing that about 4 months ago because i recent moved cross country. I was born and raised in california and now reside in missouri. it's been rough and spending my first thanksgiving and soon to be first christmas and new year without friends and family is a little depressing. even though i made enough money to make me happy with click bank and a few affiliate programs through them, i decided i would create my own website, my own product, and include 1 main affiliate program that not only has more income potential, but is in an area that i am interested in and dedicated to support and very friendly. i am combining all my knowledge and research in to helping others achieve something GREAT....and that is making money on the internet. believe me when i say it's GREAT because i've done it. those 4-6 sales on average made me $3,000+. i only got around $20 per sale but they do add up. my first sale, i got SO EXCITED! it was a GREAT feeling! i still remember it and will never forget it. i was addicted to coming online every hour JUST to check if i made a sale yet, and when i did, i had to brag about it.

ok- now that i've decided to put my reputation on the line and soon, put my money where my mouth is, stay tuned....whoever wants to build an income online needs to keep in touch with this thread. i will be posting every day on it. you will see the responses from people i've helped RIGHT HERE. if i get a poor response here, it will ruin my name and reputation and i'm not willing to do that so i will make every effort to help all i am able. i will be posting a link to my site soon. i just started making a website about a month ago and is almost ready for the public(thank god, because my savings has been dwindling since my move to missouri and i don't have a 9-5 job here....nor will i EVER). i also have to create a couple pages dedicated for this thread to offer more extensive help. until i do that, i will hold off posting the link.

I promise though that i will give 100% full effort to those willing to learn and able to follow simple instructions, and have the patience and time to build their business on the itnernet. i will show you how to do this FREE to start and then show you how wise it will be to reinvest some of the income you've made....putting it right back in to your business. Are you interested? I know you are if you've read this far so stay tuned!

-aaron webb

p.s.- i don't know how many people read this forum topic, but to give me an idea of how many people want to learn, send me an email here at trap 17. you wont get a reply, but it will allow me to prepare if there are more than 10 people and i may have to limit the # of people i plan to work with on a personal level if the # is more than 10(which i don't suspect it will be that high). it will also show me who is motivated enough to doing something as simple as writing an email to me. it's THOSE PEOPLE i want to work with on a personal level, but most everything i have to say will be posted publically for all to see and learn and enjoy!
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First i want to say, Wow that must have took you awhile to right. Second i am a little confused on what you said. Are you trying to teach people how to make money or teach people how to make money a certain site
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Post #8 post Dec 12 2005, 01:16 PM
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the same here i have been trying to find out the various different ways of advertising on the web but i use googl;e adsence its a lot simpler than what u have put in ur post
all you have to do is fill out ur bank or paypal details and when you get somebody looking at your site and they see the link to the others when they click on the link i get money its relly simple
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google adsense works when you already have a lot of traffic coming to your site that will click on the adwords that you would get paid for. since i have never been a part of google adsense(only adwords), i can't speak on the subject personally, but i do know you would have to build up your traffic to over 1000 hits a day in order to make anything substantial to smile about. even then you would not be making a full time income and souly relying on the clicks from others. if you are satisfied making 2-3 hundred dollars a month with google adsense, then great! it's a good second income for anyone. people who are just starting out with low traffic have to build up to that figure and in my opinion, google adsense should be considered second income ONLY because nobody will want to go to a website that has no content besides links from google. a site has to offer something to attract visitors and have them coming back.
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Post #9 post Dec 12 2005, 01:25 PM
QUOTE(freesoul @ Dec 10 2005, 07:17 PM)
What I have leaarned through the years is that in there are two things in the modern world that sell: 1) Physical work, 2) Creative work. For programmers at home creativity is all that counts. With enuf knowledge on a programming language its time to put your creativity to the test and make something new and unique that will ctch peoplee's attention. Flikr is a good example or maybe still more unique is : http://www.milliondollarhomepage.com/ . So I'll say that creativity can make money on the net.
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wrong! there are only two things that sell, YES! but the answer is pruducts and services. hard work and creative work are the MEANS to a product or service. times have changed since our mothers and fathers were born. do you realize there was no color t.v. back then? where do you think the internet is going to be 10 years from now? working hard is a plus and being creative is also a plus, but in the internet age, all you have to do is find a product and service that sells and copy how others are selling it. doesn't take that much work or creativity actually. just takes time. although the idea makers(the creative thinkers) have more potential than the rest, most of us aren't thomas edisons. most of us will take his ideas and creativity to benefit us. that's how most people survive and it works in business just the same. the internet has made it easy for the little guy to have a shot at making an income where otherwise he/she wouldn't be able to afford it.
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Post #10 post Dec 12 2005, 01:32 PM
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First i want to say, Wow that must have took you awhile to right. Second i am a little confused on what you said. Are you trying to teach people how to make money or teach people how to make money a certain site
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good question. BOTH! i will soon be more involved in providing resources for anyone just starting out learning, to learn. step by step, easy steps. i will be recomending a couple programs, but not required to participate. there will be learning involved here rather than quick buck scams without direction in how to procede. not only will i give direction, i will give resources. if you have a widget you want to sell, then following my simple instructions will benefit you. you only need to modify some things specifically towards your widget.
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