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Dec 18 2004, 04:45 AM
If someone kills another person in self-defense, it's fine. But if they murder another person, they obviously don't value life. Why then should they be allowed to continue living when they don't value life?
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Dec 18 2004, 04:52 AM
The murderer doesn't value life and kills, can the law be put into the murderes place? The law that sentences that person should in theory value life, thats why its law, and therefore death penalty is wrong since when in use, law contradicts itself. The death penalty is a result of the basic human instinct of revenge, some sufficiently advanced societies can overcome instinct. Others don't. |
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Dec 18 2004, 06:10 AM
I think the death penalty is the best thing the US has to deter people from murder. In the end, killers usually don't care or are willing to take the chance of getting caught. Although this is a bit harsh, I believe that instead of a life in prison or death penalty sentence we should have the said convicted criminals do manual labor until at least retirement age. Doing manual labor a criminal would be able to give back to the community which he/she has hurt. I believe that lifelong manual labor would also be a great deterant, and cause people to consider if murder is really worth it. With manual labor as the penalty no one would get off easy and the government would save money.
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Dec 19 2004, 03:47 PM
Cold blooded killers, the one's who would really deserve the death penalty, are going to kill no matter what. I don't believe that the death penalty has deterred anyone who was messed up enough to go out and kill people.
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Dec 20 2004, 11:59 PM
If someone has a mental deficiency large enough to make them want to kill someone else, I doubt that hearing about some unknown person being killed in some unknown room in a more than likely unknown prison (unless they've been before, then we have to worry about why such a person was ever let out) is going to deter them from doing anything. I would be more worried about being locked in a single room for the rest of my life.
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Dec 21 2004, 12:48 AM
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Dec 21 2004, 11:21 AM
Yes, there should be a death penalty for premeditated murders furthermore it should be "given" in the same way and with the same cruelty that the murder was done , not in some humane painless and quick method. |
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Dec 22 2004, 01:05 PM
QUOTE (joshua132 @ Dec 18 2004, 02:10 PM) I think the death penalty is the best thing the US has to deter people from murder. In the end, killers usually don't care or are willing to take the chance of getting caught. Although this is a bit harsh, I believe that instead of a life in prison or death penalty sentence we should have the said convicted criminals do manual labor until at least retirement age. Doing manual labor a criminal would be able to give back to the community which he/she has hurt. I believe that lifelong manual labor would also be a great deterant, and cause people to consider if murder is really worth it. With manual labor as the penalty no one would get off easy and the government would save money. That's good if the murderers really will do manual labour. They'll probably just get away and do nothing. QUOTE (BoSZ @ Dec 21 2004, 07:21 PM) Yes, there should be a death penalty for premeditated murders furthermore it should be "given" in the same way and with the same cruelty that the murder was done , not in some humane painless and quick method. It would be just a kind of revenge... killing the murderers are useless except that it encourages revenge. And if the society have to use "the same cruel way" to kill the murderer, there'd be no differences between the murderer and the society. |
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Dec 22 2004, 01:30 PM
if you are thinking the death penalty is a really great thing, read the book "the chamber" by john grisham. i guarantee this will change your opinion. i still believe that the death penalty is a good thing, so long as it's done correctly. in some countries, you receive the death penalty for stealing (ie safrica), in this case it's a nightmare situation, people have to steal to live, and it's game over for the theif if they're caught, or the people who are trying to catch them. remember, it's no applied everywhere like it is in the US.
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Dec 25 2004, 08:36 PM
QUOTE (UnheroicHero @ Dec 17 2004, 11:45 PM) If someone kills another person in self-defense, it's fine. But if they murder another person, they obviously don't value life. Why then should they be allowed to continue living when they don't value life? I agree... One thing is 100% guaranteed if a person receives a death penalty...he/she is punished for his/her crime and he/she no longer: 1. locks up the justice system in unnecessary appeals and red tape 2. wastes an exhorbitant amount of tax dollars 3. overcrowds the prisons, therefore having more beds for lesser offense criminals who could benefit with rehabilitative services. 4. sends a very strong message that crime does pay 5. commits another crime again! Having said this, I believe that individuals, families, churches, societies, etc. have a responsibility to nurture a child with good moral values and give them an opportunity to see themselves as valued individuals, able to contribute positively in society. Listen carefully... The time to enforce punishment is not right after the crime has occured but systematically and with good judgement from the very early years of childhood onward. This is not a 100% guarantee that little Johnny won't kill when he is an adult but his desire to resort to only killing to deal with the world will be greatly reduced. Thank you and Merry Christmas! |
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